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  • 07-26-2008, 01:51 PM
    JasonG
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Thats intense... Nice temp setup you got going there... Your 3 eggs will be fine!

    :) Please keep us updated
  • 07-27-2008, 06:29 PM
    dacalio
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    I was talking to a breeder and he told me that sperm retention for this long is unlikely. Immaculate conception was thrown out there. Anyone know much about this? I mean actual documented cases and even genetic studies? I was told there are a few cases of this known in pythons.

    In either case, it would seem this could throw a huge wrench in the het market for recessives. I know certain breeders are carefull of breeding females to different recessive males for subsequent years.

    This could explain the weirdness of certain morphs just popping up randomly in people's collections.
  • 07-27-2008, 06:58 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dacalio View Post
    I was talking to a breeder and he told me that sperm retention for this long is unlikely. Immaculate conception was thrown out there. Anyone know much about this? I mean actual documented cases and even genetic studies? I was told there are a few cases of this known in pythons.

    In either case, it would seem this could throw a huge wrench in the het market for recessives. I know certain breeders are carefull of breeding females to different recessive males for subsequent years.

    This could explain the weirdness of certain morphs just popping up randomly in people's collections.

    When exactly did you get the snakes, and when was the last time they were grouped up? I heard up to 9 months is known, but I've been wondering about the whole het thing lately with females that were bred to a different male the previous year. It seems like females can retain for a long time, but I think I've only heard about late in the season girls throwing retained clutches, or new adult females, but I haven't heard of anyone getting a retained clutch from a girl that's been in someone's collection for more than a year, the following breeding season.
  • 07-27-2008, 07:12 PM
    dr del
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Hi,

    And while I couldn't spell it for the life of me virgin birth is called parthenogenesis I think.

    There have been a few threads about it over the eyars - and I think there may even have been one this year.


    dr del
  • 07-27-2008, 07:21 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    And while I couldn't spell it for the life of me virgin birth is called parthenogenesis I think.

    There have been a few threads about it over the eyars - and I think there may even have been one this year.


    dr del

    Are there any cases or rumors of parthenogenesis in ball pythons, or any python species?
  • 07-27-2008, 07:30 PM
    dr del
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Hi,

    At least two cases discussed in ball pythons on this forum and I am fairly sure it has been reported in burmese before.

    Until someone does a dna test though I don't know how you would confirm it.


    dr del
  • 07-27-2008, 07:37 PM
    dacalio
    Re: Crap got some unexpected eggs.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    And while I couldn't spell it for the life of me virgin birth is called parthenogenesis I think.

    There have been a few threads about it over the eyars - and I think there may even have been one this year.


    dr del

    Yes that is the word I could not think of it. Thank you.

    I lost a lot of e-mails from last year due to some issues with bellsouth and AT&T merging so I do not have an exact date. I purchased them a couple of months after moving. I moved in April. My e-mails go as far back as August and I know it was at least a couple of months before then. I can look at some credit card charges to get an exact date but I know I got them approximately 1 year ago. They were individually housed since I received them, no doubt about that.
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