Het Pied "Markers"--Fact or Fiction?

speaking of petsmart hets. this male i got for free from petsmart because they couldn't get rid of mites.......go figure. any way looks at his belly. i know its not for certain but i will definately try to prove him out.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...0/dsc00681.jpg

I have two 100% het pieds and both have similar bellies. I do not believe it is always the case, but it seems to be a good indicator. Honestly if all het pieds had the marker, I think hets/piebalds would be considered co-dom rather than a simple recessive!

This post from kingsnake... interesting influence of the het pied trait on cinnimons. These are cinnimons 100% het pieds.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1518598,1518598

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

This post from kingsnake... interesting influence of the het pied trait on cinnimons. These are cinnimons 100% het pieds.

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1518598,1518598

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That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very cool:cool:

My 100% male has the marker.
personally, you cant go wrong by trying to prove out a marker.

idk if i would get a snake just because it has a marker. but i do know that if i was choosing between a couple pos hets, my money would be going towards one with a marker...

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

That is very interesting, looks like a ringer. I think the super cinny pied would be very cool:cool:

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or a pewter pied!!:D:D

With all this talk about het or not...you need to prove each case out...I applaud Justin with his findings.. To those that have normal in apperance females with a marker why are not trying to prove yours out. As many larger breeders do sell lower priced hets to the box stores as normals....Even het to het will produce normal looking babies that could be hets....Dont you love this hobby....

Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great:gj:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/...b147a011c0.jpg

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Originally Posted by KMS

With all this talk about het or not...you need to prove each case out...I applaud Justin with his findings.. To those that have normal in apperance females with a marker why are not trying to prove yours out. As many larger breeders do sell lower priced hets to the box stores as normals....Even het to het will produce normal looking babies that could be hets....Dont you love this hobby....

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Right you are, your petstore bp may not be a normal, especially if its a male... and especially if you buy from my local petstore! ;)

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Originally Posted by Repti-Rob

Here is my male pastel that i saved for my dinker project possible het pied and yes he has the markers but came from africa so don't know his parents. He was bred this year to a pastel 100% het pied female so we will see. Pastel pieds would be great:gj:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/...b147a011c0.jpg

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Good luck! One thing I've learned is, YOU NEVER KNOW!

Here are some of my females that are hets or possible hets...

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...SassyBelly.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...es/THBelly.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...HetPied07F.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../BayoBelly.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/AyoBelly.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../DayoBelly.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...akes/PHF05.jpg