Eek! 111 degrees??

And no offense or anything, but it will be a cold day in hell before I use a heat rock for any of my snakes, article or no. I'm a better safe than sorry person.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

the diffenence between a heat rock and a rock that is hot because a light is on it is obvious. the snake will be able to tell the heat is there when it feals it on its back. these snakes do live in holes but have been found durring the day out and about. and in africa the day time temp can get to over 120.
think about how warm 111degs isnt. that is only 12.4 degs warmer than your hands when you hold the snake. not that big of a deal.

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Who has seen them out and about during the day? I've never heard this or seen it cited from a reputable source. Can you provide a link?

And I disagree - it is a big deal. Feel free to keep your animals at 111 degrees if you'd like, I imagine you'll be dealing with nuerological problems as well as burns. But telling someone that it's no big deal is not responsible.

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Originally Posted by spix14

BPs are nocturnal animals. While you might see one on occasion out and about during the days in africa, they spend most of the day in their burrows, where it is significantly cooler.

Not to mention every breeder or keeper I've ever spoken to would agree that 111 degrees is FAR too warm for a BP. They are not baskers.

It's my snake and his health involved and sorry but I DO think it's a big deal.

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what is the temp on the cool side of your cage and what are the temps in the hides. i am only speaking from experiance as i used to only use heat lamps. sometimes if you make the spot right under the light 85-90deg the rest of the cage can drop below the normal cool side temp. i recommend getting a uth they work a lot better for heating glass cages. and you dont have the humidity problems as much.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Who has seen them out and about during the day? I've never heard this or seen it cited from a reputable source. Can you provide a link?

And I disagree - it is a big deal. Feel free to keep your animals at 111 degrees if you'd like, I imagine you'll be dealing with nuerological problems as well as burns. But telling someone that it's no big deal is not responsible.

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all my animals are in racks with heat tape and helix controoling them.

i am simply saything that when you use a heat light to heat you cage you will have spots that usually are above the right temp to keep the rest of the cage at the acceptable temps.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

sometimes if you make the spot right under the light 85-90deg the rest of the cage can drop below the normal cool side temp.

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So what you're basically telling me is that I should crank up the warm side temps in an effort to keep the cool side temps appropriate? And then you say I should use a UTH instead...but what would that do for the cool side temps, which by your reckoning I should be cranking up the heat in the cage to raise? :confused:

I don't mean to come across as rude and I know you're just trying to help, but bottom line, I was asking about whether or not the temp gauge was misreading the temp, not whether or not 111 degrees is too hot. I already know the answer to that.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

whats up juddb. havent crossed paths with u in a bit.

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Whats up buddy. Ive been lurking around. How's the collection?

the 111 is proabbly a good reading. when i used to use glass the only thing i found that worked was useing a uth and putting towls over the top of the cage to insulate it. it keeps the temps right where they need to be. just be carefull and whatch the temps

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Originally Posted by spix14

And no offense or anything, but it will be a cold day in hell before I use a heat rock for any of my snakes, article or no. I'm a better safe than sorry person.

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um... I wasn't saying to use a heat rock. I was merely commenting on a previous statement about heating.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

they get burned on heat rocks because usually the heat rock is too small for the animal. If provided with a heat rock that will warm the entire animal then you should be fine.

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My apologies then, I took the above quote to mean that you were supporting their use.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

the 111 is proabbly a good reading. when i used to use glass the only thing i found that worked was useing a uth and putting towls over the top of the cage to insulate it. it keeps the temps right where they need to be. just be carefull and whatch the temps

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Well thanks for the suggestion. It does work well to keep the humidity up, temps aren't as much of a worry given where I live and that fact that I usually keep my house pretty warm.