A nail in the coffin for HD-DVD???

I think that MP3s are the future as far as music is concerned. Tiny, easy to carry.. one iPod an hold your entire collection! Insane..

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

I can watch my TV and movie collection in the highest resolution available in my bedroom, living room, kitchen, and theater without worrying about if the movie is the right format for the player in that room, or even where the plastic disc it came on is. My physical media are all boxed up so I can have a less-clutered home and a MASSIVE video collection at the same time. I have a little bit of a DVR/CD/DVD/DVHS/HD-DVD collecting problem, but if you were at my house you'd never know it.

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Oohhhhh man! I need to share that tidbit with my hubby when he gets back from the War. Maybe that'll be our next step in Entertainment Upgrades! We've got literally hundreds of DVD movies, but even with their slim little boxes, they start taking up a LOT of space!

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Originally Posted by JLC

Oohhhhh man! I need to share that tidbit with my hubby when he gets back from the War. Maybe that'll be our next step in Entertainment Upgrades! We've got literally hundreds of DVD movies, but even with their slim little boxes, they start taking up a LOT of space!

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Yep. You're in my situation.
Best wishes to you and your husband. I hope you're together soon!

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

HD-DVD and blu-ray pictures are exactly the same, and often use the same video file on the disc. The big difference is that HD-DVD encryption has been cracked so it's now the consumer friendly format despite the wish of it's creators, while blu-ray is still the anti-consumer pro-studio format.

Having moved beyond plastic discs a couple of years ago, blu-ray with it's locked-in format is useless to me. HD-DVD can be copied to my media server and played at a click from a menu without the disc being present, and those files will be playable without restriction when HD-DVD and blu-ray are a distant memory.

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

Why would you be against the consumer friendly format, and for the locked-down one?

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Sounds like the industry is just trying to protect its interests.....maybe some of us so much anti-consumerism, just more like anti-piracy and anti-theft.

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

we never should of had vhs to start with beta was far better sony just lost the war back then.
thankfully the industry realized their mistake all those years ago and realize how far ahead of the game sony is and is backing them now (it doesnt hurt that sony is huge in the movie industry now i believe #2 or #3)

hd dvd never had a chance anyway tho the quality of blu-ray on a 1080 tv is so crisp and clean it doesnt look like real life it looks better

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Its ignorant to say that HD-DVD never had a chance. If Microsoft got on board and put a DVD player in there xbox 360 system then Blu-ray wouldn't have a chance. Its all about cooperate sponsorship. If xbox had a HD-DVD drive then there would be far more people on the bandwagon because there are far more people on the planet right now with an xbox360 than people who own PS3's or bluray drives combined. Sony invested into there own product. WB will invest in there product. HD is done, but to say they never had a chance is just stupid. By the way, im probably one of the only people on here with both HD-DVD and BluRay player and im also the biggest techy I know and I don't notice a damn thing between the two other than bluray drives have to have far more power invested in there units to provide the same picture quality and most middle of the road to low end players look like absolute garbage, where as hd-dvd format you can get a high end player for 300$ that looks ridiculous and not break the bank. IMO There both the same and its just cooperate greed and consumer confusion that purpetuates these 'format wars'. Clearchannel and Viacom still own everything and one way or another I have a feeling they are making money on this reguardless.

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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls

Sounds like the industry is just trying to protect its interests.....maybe some of us so much anti-consumerism, just more like anti-piracy and anti-theft.

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Unless you're part of the scam, you're being used by people who don't give a damn about you.

The industry's interests are to squeeze us for every penny they can.
If they had their way, copyright would last forever, and we'd pay every time we watch a movie.

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Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls

Sounds like the industry is just trying to protect its interests.....maybe some of us so much anti-consumerism, just more like anti-piracy and anti-theft.

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btw, DRM hasn't historically been anti-piracy. It's been to stop the consumer from using the media as they please. While Joe Shmoe couldn't copy his DVDs to VHS for the kids, or even skip advertisements on a DVD, criminals were pressing thousands of copies, bypassing these restrictions easily. DRM controls the public, not the pirates.

In the case of music downloads, DRM has already failed and is being dropped label by label because it's bad business. I hope video goes the same way.

God Jeff, you sound exactly like my boyfriend. I can only handle so much anti-corporation, anti-government, anti-walmart, anti-industry speeches in one day. (not to say you touched on the last 3)

Point is, who cares? If we don't pay them to watch their movies, where will they get the billions of dollars to make more?

Chris is a nerd, we have literally hundreds of movies ripped, hundreds more on harddrives, tv shows up the wazoo, hundreds of games for several systems, and while I'm grateful for the hours of mindless entertainment at my finger tips, (to watch on a fairly nice size hdtv) I prefer to see movies on the big screen, and I really dont watch that many movies anyways.

I just have other crap to do. (Like video games lol)

Anyways, still rooting for blu ray like I have nothing else to do. Gettin all hifey over it, (chris thinks i'm nuts)

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

Unless you're part of the scam, you're being used by people who don't give a damn about you.

The industry's interests are to squeeze us for every penny they can.
If they had their way, copyright would last forever, and we'd pay every time we watch a movie.

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Not sure what DRM is.....you probably know more about this then me.....but

How is it exactly a scam?

Sounds like if you had it your way no one could protect their intellectual and artistic property.

I believe the blu ray has been cracked...