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getting a new chondro

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  • 11-29-2007, 08:53 PM
    MPenn
    Re: getting a new chondro
    This is also a reason to buy from a respected breeder instead of a wholesaler or jobber.
  • 11-29-2007, 08:56 PM
    bonheki
    Re: getting a new chondro
    i saw your website are you carpet pure breed or mixed?
  • 11-29-2007, 09:16 PM
    MPenn
    Re: getting a new chondro
    I work with pure specimens. I am also working with a gentleman in Europe to import some more pure lines in.
    My original Lemke line of coastals has a long pedigree going back to the mid 90's when carpets were just really hitting the scene in the US. A good deal of carpets were brought into the States back then in less than legal ways.
  • 11-29-2007, 09:16 PM
    bonheki
    Re: getting a new chondro
    this is the only pic i can get now a pic of his whole body http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...i/PICT3078.jpg
  • 11-29-2007, 09:17 PM
    bonheki
    Re: getting a new chondro
    oh hmmm prolly in the future ill buy a carpet from you
  • 11-29-2007, 09:41 PM
    MPenn
    Re: getting a new chondro
    I can't get a good look at it but from what I can see, it looks to be a jungle x coastal. I would need a clearer pic.

    But even at that, it is only a guess.
  • 11-29-2007, 09:44 PM
    bonheki
    Re: getting a new chondro
    well shes going into shed soon soo she looks a little darker ill try to post better pics tommorow but she moves way to much
  • 11-29-2007, 09:46 PM
    Rapture
    Re: getting a new chondro
    Turn the flash on. ;)
  • 11-29-2007, 10:45 PM
    bonheki
    Re: getting a new chondro
    i got her right on the light and i decided to go with the sorong i was reading up on my greg maxwelll the more complete chondro and i was looking them up and i decided the sorong is right for me then ill get the biaks and arus in the future also im only going to breed pure breeds from now on with the exception of some hybrids on my list (carpondros)
  • 12-03-2007, 04:17 PM
    Buck_99
    Re: getting a new chondro
    Bonheki,

    In a sense, I have each of the types you're thinking of, so I can tell you what little I know about the localities based on my experiences with the ones I own (individual results may vary!).

    I have a 5 yr. old male that was sold to me as Aru but looks more Sorong than Aru, but has aspects of both. Best guess so far from people who've looked at him is that he's an Aru/Sorong cross. Extremely gentle chondro and always easy to handle, though some days he's more enthusiastic about it than others, e.g., on a bad day he'll huff and puff once or twice before settling in, but on a good day he'll come right off his perch and into my arms without any prompting...I just take his perch out of the tank with him on it and he comes off. Allows petting, touching his head and nose, etc. From what I've heard, that's the Sorong personality coming through.

    I have a Manokwari female yearling. You haven't mentioned this locality, but if you check the maps, you'll see the Manokwari regency is adjacent to Sorong, and it's not like they collect these snakes in the cities, so it's a safe bet the snakes themselves aren't as descriminating in the wild about borders and races as we are. They're probably not concerned with keeping their types pure. So Sorongs and Manokwaris look similar to me, and here's the kicker: my Manokwari is also very gentle and actually fell asleep in my hand yesterday (at least I assumed she was asleep...she rested her head on my wrist and didn't move for almost an hour while I typed one-handed). When she got up, I let her curl up on the wooden grid of a chair back. She was all wrapped up around two vertical slats and a crossbar, and when it was time for me to put her away she let me untangle her, never once resisting despite numerous wide-open opportunities to bite me.

    Here's what she looks like:

    http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...hons/small.jpg

    I also have a female Biak, 3 years old. She's nervous and unpredictable. This weekend I had a nice handling session with her but it wasn't until 15 minutes after I managed to get her off her perch that touching her didn't provoke sudden reactions/movements from her. She's given me easier sessions in the past, but she's also given me harder ones: she bit my daughter in the face a few months back, and she tagged me on the wrist about a week ago. Usually she doesn't bite, but the way she looks right into my eyes can be unnerving. When she does strike there are no warnings and no clues. I wear safety glasses when handling her, because evading her will not be possible. When she bit my daughter, my daughter was holding the snake in her arms for 10 minutes, then suddenly thought she'd been stung by a wasp. She saw neither the strike nor the recoil.

    I will never get another Biak. She sure is pretty, though!

    Finally, if handling is important for you, I would encourage you to purchase a yearling or older, and try to have an opportunity to handle the snake for yourself.

    I'm no expert and I'm new to chondros, but that's how I'd do it.
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