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At a loss...

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  • 11-11-2007, 06:39 PM
    Emilio
    Re: At a loss...
    Sorry to hear about your loss J it's worst when your not expecting something like that. I hope the necropsy shed's some light on why it happened.
  • 11-11-2007, 07:23 PM
    dr del
    Re: At a loss...
    Hi,

    Sorry to hear you lost her. :(

    :grouphug:



    dr del
  • 11-11-2007, 07:40 PM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: At a loss...
    Sorry about your loss. It's bad to deal with, especially when it wasn't expected.
  • 11-11-2007, 08:01 PM
    jknudson
    Re: At a loss...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daaangconcepts View Post
    Awww Jason. I soo sorry for your loss. :hug:

    Thanks Susan.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    Oh Jason, I'm so very sorry to read of her loss. It's never easy to hold them and know there was nothing you likely could have done...so frustrating and very heartbreaking to say the least. Mike and I have had two babies die in our hands and with them, there was never much hope, but you hope anyways and wish it could have been different. One of them (Teagan) had that dark discoloration you mention and from what I could find out it was likely some sort of liver failure with her.

    I know you care and this hurts but don't let what's happened hold you down. Even in these hard situations, I think we as keepers of snakes, do learn something to take forward into another day. :hug:

    I hope I can take something from even this experience. I appreciate the thoughtful response Jo! Keeping animals sure can be trying sometimes.

    Was the cause of the liver failure found? If the vet says the same thing I'd definitely be curious to see if/how it can be prevented...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Emilio View Post
    Sorry to hear about your loss J it's worst when your not expecting something like that. I hope the necropsy shed's some light on why it happened.

    Thank you Emilio. I'll be sure to update if I find anything out.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    Sorry to hear you lost her. :(

    :grouphug:

    dr del

    Thanks Derek.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose View Post
    Sorry about your loss. It's bad to deal with, especially when it wasn't expected.

    Thanks.
  • 11-12-2007, 12:46 AM
    tigerlily
    Re: At a loss...
    I know you had such high hopes and plans for that little girl. I'm so sorry Jason. :hug:
  • 11-12-2007, 12:51 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: At a loss...
    That sucks bro! ... I know how excited you were about that whole group. ... it happens, not your fault at all.

    -adam
  • 11-12-2007, 12:59 AM
    joepythons
    Re: At a loss...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBallPython View Post
    Doing my weekend check on everyone today and refilling water dishes I came across one of my female possible het pieds lifeless and obviously dead....:(

    I really didn't see this coming, I know a lot of us who keep live animals will at some time or another experience a loss, but this girl just days ago was lively when I had her out and looked physically healthy and plump.

    She had fed for me five times on hopper mice, I had caught her drinking on several occasions so I know she was intaking water, and she was passing urates and waste...

    From examining her I only noticed a small disproportion to her shape, there was a small lump to one side of her body in the abdomen area. The tissue looked dark and discolored....

    I guess I really just wanted to share my loss... she was a little smoking sweety of a snake... all I know is I'm VERY disheartened...:tears:

    Jason sorry for your loss :(
  • 11-12-2007, 01:05 AM
    pythontricker
    Re: At a loss...
    Just remember jason, with every ending, there is always a new beginning. sorry to hear about your loss.;)
  • 11-12-2007, 01:46 AM
    MarkS
    Re: At a loss...
    Sorry to hear that Jason, It happens and it's never fun. I just lost one a couple of days ago too. She was fine last week, then I found her dead on Friday. Anyone who keeps a lot of animals is going to have unexplained losses from time to time. BTW, the dark discoloration is probably the gall bladder, that seems to decompose rather quickly and I've often seen it on animals that have been dead for more then a few hours. But if thats the case, it's probably not the cause of death, just a natural byproduct of decomposition.

    Mark
  • 11-12-2007, 02:17 AM
    jknudson
    Re: At a loss...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily View Post
    I know you had such high hopes and plans for that little girl. I'm so sorry Jason. :hug:

    Thank you Christie! I really appreciate it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki View Post
    That sucks bro! ... I know how excited you were about that whole group. ... it happens, not your fault at all.

    -adam

    Its too bad that living things that we cherish at some point succumb to death, she had big plans ahead of her. I was going to call you this morning, to see if you'd have insight...but I just couldn't deal with it at the time. *sigh*

    It means a lot to me bro. (NH)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Jason sorry for your loss :(

    Thanks Joe.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pythontricker View Post
    Just remember jason, with every ending, there is always a new beginning. sorry to hear about your loss.;)

    I'm not sure where this new beginning is, hopefully in the form of good karma come egg time... lets hope so!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Sorry to hear that Jason, It happens and it's never fun. I just lost one a couple of days ago too. She was fine last week, then I found her dead on Friday. Anyone who keeps a lot of animals is going to have unexplained losses from time to time. BTW, the dark discoloration is probably the gall bladder, that seems to decompose rather quickly and I've often seen it on animals that have been dead for more then a few hours. But if thats the case, it's probably not the cause of death, just a natural byproduct of decomposition.

    Mark

    Mark, thank you for the insight, and I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I checked in on her, and actually held her saturday around 6pm and all seemed well.

    I found her this morning at around 9am so I'm not sure if the decomposition would set in that quickly, but I check the anatomy via VPI book, and the dark area was in the gall bladder region so I think you may be right on. Hopefully she's not too for decomposed for a successful necropsy.

    Thank you again everyone
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