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  • 10-02-2007, 06:28 PM
    ctrlfreq
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    While I absolutely love my little Graziani girl, I have to go with the NERD lemon.
  • 10-02-2007, 09:31 PM
    jhall1468
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    I like morphs :D... really, I don't have a preference. At the end of the day a really pretty Graziani is going to beat a browned out Lemon any day of the week. That works both ways. But I think it's hard to pick one, since Graz's are known for their blushing, while Lemons are known for their bright yellow color. I think there are a lot of these comparisons that are about the animal more than the line. I think this gets asked a lot about similar morphs and I just can't pick a "line" because I've seen some amazing snakes from both lines.

    Buy the snake, not the line ;).
  • 10-03-2007, 12:52 PM
    Purrrfect9
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jhall1468
    Buy the snake, not the line ;).

    I completely agree. I tend to favor blushing more than the crisp clean lines when it comes to pastels and normals, and since the Graziani line tends to have more blushing than the other, that is what I ended up buying. My male just turned a year old, and he really hasn't faded much, and he gets more blushing as he gets older.
  • 10-03-2007, 03:11 PM
    RegiusCo
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    Each lineage has its share of beauties and uglies. Problem is most breeders in the past just simply bred any ready females to their Pastels instead of selectively breeding to refine the look.

    Here is our 2004 F3 Graziani male! I prefer blushing on my Pastels :D
    http://www.reptilescanada.com/galler..._Pastel_1a.jpg

    Marc
  • 10-03-2007, 03:53 PM
    MATTI
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    Lemon Pastel:

    http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t...eynde/P1-1.jpg

    Like RegiusCo.. says, you have ugly and very nice pastels in the same 'line'.
    I like pastels with high yellow amount and blushes.
  • 10-06-2007, 09:25 AM
    Holbeird
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    I agree with by the line, not the snake, although I see alot of bells that are very pretty and seem to hold their color with age, then again there's the opposite of that as well. I think alot of it also has to do with who the other parent is. If it comes to graziani vs lemon, I dunno. I love the lemons bright yellow and black, but I love the blushing on graziani's. (especially your's marc, love that LONG blush!) But I voted other because A. I believe you buy by the snake, not the line, and B. because If I was going to have to go on a line, I think personally I'd vote bell just from my personal experience.
  • 11-16-2007, 08:33 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    One thing that needs to be taken into consideration is the number of graziani pastels that have been produced in comparison to the other lines.

    What is fair, is to line up the best examples of a Graziani against the best examples of Lemon or for that matter, any other pastel line.

    What is not fair is when you see people compare their best looking pastel up against the worst example of another line. Usually for sales reasons!

    We see so many browned out dirty looking Graziani's that our perception becomes blurred with the belief that Graziani is the least desired line.

    People have mass produced this line, you usually don't sell the best looking ones produced and there have been a great number of browned out dark (Can hardly tell it's a pastel) used to produce even more.

    I say, get the line/s that catch your eye, or get the best examples of all the lines and have them all.

    Which is my gaol, I have blonde, Graziani, Bell, Rupple (Stone washed). I have few more to get, but getting there...LOL

    That's my 1.7c view on pastels.... :)
  • 11-16-2007, 10:18 PM
    PythonChick
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    I voted lemon, because I like the bright contrast the most, though I love the blushing as well. My lemon has been slowly developing a bit more blushing with each shed, so here is to hoping this is a trend that continues. :please: I have seen examples of every line that are goregeous though, so I agree that it depends on the animal.
  • 11-18-2007, 12:29 PM
    royalpython
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    I have neither :)

    I voted graziani.

    I've see more better examples of graziani's line than the lemon line. Obviously, the best examples of both are amazing though.
  • 11-18-2007, 01:14 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: NERD Lemon vs Graziani Pastel
    For me, it depends on the individual snake, not the line. A friend of mine has a lemon whom I do not think of as attractive as my Graz. There are lemons out there that I think are much hotter than my Graz, as well as Graz's out there that top other lemons in my opinion. It is a matter of opinion :)
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