Spins and shakes in Spiders - Genetic Connection?

freakie_frog, all combos that include the spider trait are predisposed to spinning just like a normal spider does.

Justin

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

freakie_frog, all combos that include the spider trait are predisposed to spinning just like a normal spider does.

Justin

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Thanks Justin! I just never hear people whining about the Bee's spinning or any other Bee combo just the base morph.

Again thanks hey you going to make the show next weekend? I would love to meet you.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Thanks Justin! I just never hear people whining about the Bee's spinning or any other Bee combo just the base morph.

Again thanks hey you going to make the show next weekend? I would love to meet you.

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They are way too cool to complain about! :D

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Originally Posted by westcoastjungle

They are way too cool to complain about! :D

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BAM i agree, gotta luv them.

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vaughn

Rock on guys breed em till the bottom falls out.


Chuck

I must have a Spider that was imported from the planet Neptune or something. My male has never done any of these weird things that people keep describing. If it is said that "every Spider has this gene" then I want to know who proved this and what the name and code of the gene is.
My Spider just acts like every other ball python I have ever seen; he has his quirks like they all do. He is shy and has never struck at me, and goes off feed for a few weeks off and on like pretty-much any BP in anyone's racks anywhere in the world. I think that my heart would stop if I saw him flipping around his cage or shaking like a Parkinson's disease patient.. am I living in a bubble or something or does anyone else have a Spider that does not exhibit these syptoms?
Mine was produced by John Courtney.
On a side note: I would definately think that doms would be much less inbred than recessives. Hets are not needed; Pastels and Spiders are bred to normals of unknown lineage all of the time.. so I see little inbreeding in them at present time!
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...g?t=1189121304

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Originally Posted by Chuck

Rock on guys breed em till the bottom falls out.


Chuck

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if people were produceing dogs that shook like they had parkensens(sp) and the breeder just said its ok its actually cute. the dog world would eat them alive. and call them a puppy mill that only cares about money. no matter how you slice it. i have a spider and if any one of them ever even show so much as a head shack i would not breed it. and you can quote me on this years form now if i ever sell any one a spider with wobbles.

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

On a side note: I would definately think that doms would be much less inbred than recessives. Hets are not needed; Pastels and Spiders are bred to normals of unknown lineage all of the time.. so I see little inbreeding in them at present time!
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...g?t=1189121304

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if i am not mistaken wernt all spiders from one captive one that nerd had?

gen that is a nice spider. he is hot

I'm not sure if Kara's going to chime in on this thread, but she and I were talking about this issue last Spring and she said at the time that she thought the whole "all spiders spin" thing wasn't correct. She wasn't denying that -some- spiders spin, but she didn't think that all of them do.

Kara can speak for herself, of course, and I hope she does :) Just thought I'd add that.

Even if all of the spiders were from one that NERD had, that still wouldn't account for inbreeding. If Nerd had one spider, they'd breed it to normals and get more spiders and know that it was Dom or Co-Dom then they don't need to breed those back to parents unless they were checking to see if they were co-dom and had a super form.

Either way. I've seen a spider or two with bigger spinning issues and I must admit it's a sad sight. I haven't had enough to be able to agree with some of the other breeders that all exhibit this behavior.

Either way, I'll be looking to breed spiders in because one of my favorites is a lesser-bee :)