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Help! Burn or Scale Rot?

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  • 08-28-2007, 11:20 PM
    beachvibesbyeff
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bright202
    I feel sorry for your snake and your mom, Obviously your snake doesn't mean much to you if wouldn't want to take it to the vet, and even if your friend is a "reptile specialist", why wouldn't you go to him right away? Honestly though, why would you even get a ball python, if you can't take proper care for it, did you get it because it was only $30? Or because you wanted to show it off to your friends? Or do you really have a passion for these beautiful animals? IMO, and this is just my :2cent:, I think your mom did the right thing, and you have no right on gods beautiful green earth to be mad at her, and I give her kudo's for taking YOUR poor snake to the vet, taking time out of her busy schedule, and hard earned money for YOUR snake, by the looks of it she has more respect for your snake than you do. I do realize that when you do come home, that you do have a limited time for everything and you got stuff to do, but damn.. Show some respect for your pets.. Poor snake. I hope your mother takes better care of it than you ever would. :mad: Sorry for the rant you guys....

    Okay, but I feel the need to express a vulgar display of power after reading this. The snake doesn't mean much to me??? Who are you to judge? I wouldn't have bought a snake in the first place if I didn't care for it, or the kind of species it is. My mom would argue the snake means "too much" to me, but that's besides the point. "To show it off to friends?" Are you out of your mind? If I wanted to show of a snake to my friends, I would have gotten a Reticulated Python, not a baby ball python. "Because it was only $30?" Yeah, actually, my friend is like do you have $30 to waste? I was like dude, for sure man, I have too much money now. He's like well, come buy this ball python. Not.

    In an idealistic environment, the snake would be with me, in my apartment, but my parents will not allow it, because the apartment itself doesn't allow any pet besides a 5 gallon fish tank. You can relate law to me a thousand times, but I do not give a **** that pets are not allowed, a snake, a ball python in particular, would NOT be a problem, nor would never get me into trouble because 1) It is still a relative baby, and has a 10 gallon enclosure, 2) It doesn't make a sound, and 3) Since the electric company is a private bill that comes straight to me, there would be no way of them knowing I'm using a little extra heat. And, most importantly, the snake would be given the proper care, and handled, and unlike you state, I love my ball python, and think she is the coolest creature on earth, and I cannot wait to watch her mature and grow.

    Why did I get a ball python? Well, in all honesty, I've wanted a reptile my whole life, but was never allowed. When I finally turned 18 years old, I finally put my dream to reality, and was looking at getting a leopard gecko. I talked to my friend a pet store, and after much talk, he had me hooked on the ball python. A python, that is friendly, doesn't require extensive care, that doesn't grow beyond 6 feet, and can live to be 50 years old, sold me. I was hooked. I then researched them for about two months, and came back to him, and told him I want to get one. Luckily for me, he breeds them in his home, and just had another batch a few weeks before I came in, and bam, that was that.

    Ok, and this line really mad me quiver: My mom has more respect for my snake than I do? Maybe this will change your mind. My mom (and dad) hate snakes, and this is no exception. It's amazing she's still alive, because my mom has threatened to kill it several times since I brought her home. For one, they will NOT pick it up, or any of the like, so unless I come home, my snake will not come out (which is terrible because that what keeps them friendly when they grow older and bigger), and this also means, they will not clean the cage, or any of that. All my mom will do is put a mouse in the cage every week. I already came to a conclusion...the next time I come home, I'm taking the snake back with me, no matter what. It's for her own good. I don't care that I could get into trouble here (it won't happen), she will be better off in my care, and so will I, knowing she is receiving the right care.

    You have to understand this from my perspective. My snake has been a friendly-healthy creature for the 3 months I've had her...and I go away to college for a week, come back, and BAM...somethings wrong...Makes me wonder...THAT is why I'm mad at her, and would NOT have taken her to the vet. I'm not against the vet just because of the money, but by 1) My mom did this without informing me first, 2) I know someone who knows the same or more about snakes than any herp vet, because he's OWNED them for over 20 years, and 3) We are not wealthy...my Mom does complain about money all the time, and here she is spending nearly $200 on MY snake...it makes me sick.
  • 08-28-2007, 11:30 PM
    Nate
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    beachvibesbyeff, I've housed quite a few ball pythons in my apartment complex. By your rant (and a justified one, i might add), it sounds like housing it with you is your best bet, unless the apartment does daily "smoke detector inspections".

    The one thing you can't do is boast about it...letting a few of the little neighborhood kids in to see it may seem like a neat idea, but it's gotten me in some hot water before....be careful who you tell.

    I hope all works out with your situation, however, you know now it isn't going to be a cheap experience.
  • 08-28-2007, 11:34 PM
    beachvibesbyeff
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nathanledet
    beachvibesbyeff, I've housed quite a few ball pythons in my apartment complex. By your rant (and a justified one, i might add), it sounds like housing it with you is your best bet, unless the apartment does daily "smoke detector inspections".

    I hope all works out with your situation, however, you know now it isn't going to be a cheap experience.

    Hey thanks for your feedback. Is your apartment complex against pets also? No, they do not come in for any inspections or anything, and if we have a maintenance problem, for instance, we give them a time we will be here so they can come check it out, otherwise, they do not come in without our permission.
  • 08-28-2007, 11:37 PM
    Nate
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff
    Hey thanks for your feedback. Is your apartment complex against pets also? No, they do not come in for any inspections or anything, and if we have a maintenance problem, for instance, we give them a time we will be here so they can come check it out, otherwise, they do not come in without our permission.

    Yes, very much against reptiles.
    My collection became too precious to risk the "sell them or move out" situation..so I posted an ad on Craigslist that stated I was looking for a room and wanted to be contacted only by people who had no issues with harmless reptiles. Within a week, I was contacted and have been living problem free in a house, and the owner is totally cool with my collection. You may consider that route as well.
  • 08-28-2007, 11:46 PM
    beachvibesbyeff
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nathanledet
    Yes, very much against reptiles.
    My collection became too precious to risk the "sell them or move out" situation..so I posted an ad on Craigslist that stated I was looking for a room and wanted to be contacted only by people who had no issues with harmless reptiles. Within a week, I was contacted and have been living problem free in a house, and the owner is totally cool with my collection. You may consider that route as well.

    Yeah, it's such a shame these complexes are even against reptiles. I can see them being against an adult reticulated python, for instance, since if for example they did smoke detector checks, the python could be lethal. But in my mind, it's their lack of knowledge. They probably don't know what a ball python is, much less that it thrives in a relatively small enclosure, and is a very friendly pet, and has NO chance of escape (I have a Bible on top of mine)...the apartment just mentions "pets" as a whole...as if all are equally as not permitted...

    I can also see for example, dogs, not being allowed...They can be quite loud, and leave greetings on the carpet which in turn can cause staining and obviously an obtruse smell. But a ball python? Common.
  • 08-28-2007, 11:55 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Ok, you may need to take a deep breath. First off, calling members names is not permitted. You came here asking for advice and you got it. It may not have been what you wanted to hear, but there is little anyone here can do to diagnose a problem for a snake that they haven't even seen. Your mom got your snake medical treatment, which it needed. Often these types of things don't happen overnight, and may have been developing for weeks before the problem was large enough to catch some attention.

    You've received quite a bit of good advice. You can take it or leave, but I hope that you consider that the members only have your snake's well being at heart. Sometimes it may come across a bit harsher than you'd like, but try and see the message through the emotions.
  • 08-29-2007, 12:21 AM
    beachvibesbyeff
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tigerlily
    Ok, you may need to take a deep breath. First off, calling members names is not permitted. You came here asking for advice and you got it. It may not have been what you wanted to hear, but there is little anyone here can do to diagnose a problem for a snake that they haven't even seen. Your mom got your snake medical treatment, which it needed. Often these types of things don't happen overnight, and may have been developing for weeks before the problem was large enough to catch some attention.

    You've received quite a bit of good advice. You can take it or leave, but I hope that you consider that the members only have your snake's well being at heart. Sometimes it may come across a bit harsher than you'd like, but try and see the message through the emotions.

    I appreciate your response. Calling members names may not be permitted, however, I felt it was needed for my intended point. If someone is going to respond with a negative view of myself and how I care for my snake, you better believe that I will respond with something just as bitter and disheartening.

    The reason I came here for advice was because I couldn't find any pictures online which showed a ball python with either a burn, or a scale rot. So, I described the sensory aspects I noticed on her, and was looking for either a) She has a burn, or b) She has scale rot. It's not rocket science. The only reason I don't know what it is is because I've only had her 3 months, and it's the only reptile I've ever owned, and I figured someone here can diagnose the problem with relative ease.

    I'm fine with harsh advise or constructive critisicm, but when someone blatantly points me out as the bad guy or not having any respect or care for a creature that I wouldn't trade for the world, when I was looking for either it's a burn or scale rot, it's gone too far, and is no longer advice, much less good advice, and I will not take a back seat, but rather retaliate in a fashion that was done similarly to me. I came here for one reason, as I described last paragraph, not to argue. Sorry for the rant.
  • 08-29-2007, 12:30 AM
    SarahMB
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by beachvibesbyeff
    I'm fine with harsh advise or constructive critisicm, but when someone blatantly points me out as the bad guy or not having any respect or care for a creature that I wouldn't trade for the world, when I was looking for either it's a burn or scale rot, it's gone too far, and is no longer advice, much less good advice, and I will not take a back seat, but rather retaliate in a fashion that was done similarly to me. I came here for one reason, as I described last paragraph, not to argue. Sorry for the rant.

    I agree. The least constructive thing someone can do is berate someone who has come here looking for advice. It was uncalled for.
  • 08-29-2007, 02:38 AM
    Kagez28
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    see kids this is why a thermostat is NEEDED....
  • 08-29-2007, 11:53 AM
    python.princess
    Re: Help! Burn or Scale Rot?
    if you want to see pictures, you can search the forums for 'scale rot' and 'burns'
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