prices at daytona.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

Agreed...if true. It would be interesting to know how much of the annual BP volume is done via KS and Fauna. As for shows I agree they are a free for all...but again that is where "most" people are exposed to pricing and that sets in their mind next time they go to make a purchase.

I guess my question is realistically how much could a NERD, RDR, etc. get vs. what is being presented in the mass market? (and yes I know they can ask whatever they want but how much higher then "cheap" is the avg. purchaser willing to go. 10%, 100%, 300%, what?)

I am like a lot of you here - willing to pay more for quality from a reputable breeder...but what I have determined is how much more :confused: .

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Well I think at some point people will understand that with a higher price comes something other than an animal that I could have gotten for 200.00 cheaper two tables down.

See the thread with the Wild Caught title.

With a established breeder like NERD, RDR, VPI, 8ball you'll get the intangible. but just as important fuzzy feel good of knowing that if I have a problem with my NERD Het pied or 8ball YB or RDR goblin marker that I can pick the phone up get Kev/Kara or Adam or Ralphie and know that they have me and my snakes interest in mind with the ability to fix problems or what ever.

Thats what I shop I find a breeder I like and then see if they have an animal I want if not so be it but thats the breeder(s) I am buying from.

I agree with you guys that it is important to buy quality animals from quality breeders. I just don't think a breeder has to be one of the big guys to produce top quality animals and be trustworthy. I have bought animals from some of the big guys as well as some smaller breeders. Everyone starts out as a little guy, most will always be one of the little guys. Being a reputable breeder has nothing to do with how many animals you have IMO. Maybe I have just been lucky but I don't think there is anyone that I have purchased a snake from that I would not do business with again. The big guys will give you deals too. The lesser I just bought was from one of the biggest breeders out there. I bought a pair of het lavenders from the Sutherlands last year and they took $1000 off the listed price. You just can't be afraid to ask. As long as you are polite and don't make rediculous offers I have found pretty much every breeder big or small will work with you a little on the price.

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Originally Posted by pfan151

I agree with you guys that it is important to buy quality animals from quality breeders. I just don't think a breeder has to be one of the big guys to produce top quality animals and be trustworthy. I have bought animals from some of the big guys as well as some smaller breeders. Everyone starts out as a little guy, most will always be one of the little guys. Being a reputable breeder has nothing to do with how many animals you have IMO. Maybe I have just been lucky but I don't think there is anyone that I have purchased a snake from that I would not do business with again. The big guys will give you deals too. The lesser I just bought was from one of the biggest breeders out there. I bought a pair of het lavenders from the Sutherlands last year and they took $1000 off the listed price. You just can't be afraid to ask. As long as you are polite and don't make rediculous offers I have found pretty much every breeder big or small will work with you a little on the price.

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Good post! Especially about the smaller breeders. I've purchased from small breeders as well as "big breeders" and there have been cases where I was actually more impressed with the small breeder quality of the animals. That's not to say the ones from the big guy were inferior by any means.

I think that in some cases the little guy gives just as much quality because they are competing with the big guys and to win business and a solid reputation they really have to go the extra mile.

But I also agree with other posts that there are people who do it not for the love of snakes or the hobby but because they're trying to make a quick buck. These are the kind of people I won't go near even with a ten foot stick.

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

for some reason there are a lot of people that seem to be getting out of the balls.

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That is because they were not passionate about their animal to start with, but only interested into making a quick buck, those who get into breeding for those kind of reasons will not make it and will get out of it in no time, and to me it is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by kavmon

for a boa guy, you sure are interested in ball prices!!




vaughn

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i have been out of boas for over 7 months now.( as they are not allowed in my home state) i have over 20 adult female that will breed this fall and 50 06 female cb balls and am starting to put a nice stable of studs together. so yes i am verry interested in ball prices.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

You have every thing from NERD to "Jimmy's" Fauna and KS are sale it cheap Sale it Fast get it gone sites.

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Leave the Jimi out of it! lol

i will never understand why they keep bring you up from what i hear you are great to deal with . hahahah

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Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES

i have been out of boas for over 7 months now.( as they are not allowed in my home state) i have over 20 adult female that will breed this fall and 50 06 female cb balls and am starting to put a nice stable of studs together. so yes i am verry interested in ball prices.

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i didn't remember that, i was just reading your sig.

give brock a call, i hear he is setting prices on lemon blasts this season for everyone.


vaughn

*sigh*

well. all i have to say is, anyone who's willing to sacrifice quality for a cheap price is crazy. CRAZY.

especially since some of these animals will be their foundation stock.. eh.. hello?

i mean, buying a mid/low quality animal at 600$ when you could have saved but a tiny bit longer, 1 more season, you could have had the 1k$ animal and much, much better quality (and you know chances are that 1k$ animal would be 850-950$ possibly next season) is just a big waste of money to me.

Can we have a mature discussion without bring smartass comments and sarcasm in it? It adds nothing to the discussion and just annoys people causing them to not even bother with posting. If you have a point, by all means make it, but act your age when making it.