Seriously guys.. hes not eating :(

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Originally Posted by RockSolid

Have you ever thought about having your dad spend some time with you browsing the threads on this site? Just a thought. Also don't feel like the worst person. New owners make mistakes. It happens. The important thing is to find a way to fix those mistakes for the benefit of your pet. I used to think that I needed a big fancy tank, but after a lot of research, I decided to go with a tub and now I never doubt that I made a good decision. It's what works for me.
As far as the feeding problems, several people here have been having problems recently. There are several good threads in the BP Husbandry forum that may help you out.

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Thank you.

Ahh I'm feeling the stress, I dont want to be a bad person.. unfortunately he has to stay in that tank until i can get either a small 10-15 gal tank or a UTH for the tub, maximum 2 week wait or less. I hope thats not too harsh, how can i make the humidity go up to at least 50-60%
P.S. my humidity is at around 42% :(

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Originally Posted by Bright202

Ahh I'm feeling the stress, I dont want to be a bad person.. unfortunately he has to stay in that tank until i can get either a small 10-15 gal tank or a UTH for the tub, maximum 2 week wait or less. I hope thats not too harsh, how can i make the humidity go up to at least 50-60%
P.S. my humidity is at around 42% :(

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He'll be fine in that tank for the time being. Don't stress too much. And 42% humidity isn't ideal, but it's not going to hurt him either. To bump it, you could try putting a wet (wrung out) loose wad of paper towel in his tank and just change it out with a fresh one each day.

As for your humidity.. it's in the FAQ:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=30763

And also in the Caresheet:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=59

Don't feel bad about that. And try to take deep breaths. You aren't going to kill your snake just by waiting a little while. I have my now 3 month old (or so) in a 20L tank and started with my humidity hardly going over 42% as well. She even snuck in a shed on me at that level and it ended up fine.

As long as you know what you need to do, and get it done ASAP, you and your snake should be just fine. :) Just try and relax...stress does no more good for you than for the snake.

BRIGHT202, everything you have done is normal.

Snakes are easy to care for once you get used to them, but until then, it really does seem close to impossable. I spent weeks stressing out with my corn snakes then the balls but now Im good. I spent alot of $$ thats just sitting in my basement now cause it was sold to me as "a must have" buy store store people.

Your humidity is ok , can try the damp newspaper or papertowel but isnt nessesary. Just watch temps, one hide should be 90-92. I would get a few more hides in there, hides can be a small shoebox with a hole, old tupperware with a hole , anything it doesnt need to cost $$ or be pretty.

Leave him for the week. Pick a day that you are normally home or have will have time same day every week.

I feed FT so what I do is fill a small bowl with HOT tap water put mouse in for a few min, then pour out and refill with HOT tap water again till mouse is nice and thawed.

Leave the bowl near the cage as the smell will reach the snake. Use tongs ($2 store bought) and hold the mouse dangle it around his hide and near the opening of it. He should start to stick his head out if hes interested. If so wiggle a little and move it a little closer and he should hit it. If not place mouse on some newspaper and place near the opening (dont want the aspen to get in his mouth)

If still nothing try a live one in a few days, but dont leave the room while its in there.

I wrote waaaayy to much :P

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Originally Posted by Argentra

Don't feel bad about that. And try to take deep breaths. You aren't going to kill your snake just by waiting a little while. I have my now 3 month old (or so) in a 20L tank and started with my humidity hardly going over 42% as well. She even snuck in a shed on me at that level and it ended up fine.

As long as you know what you need to do, and get it done ASAP, you and your snake should be just fine. :) Just try and relax...stress does no more good for you than for the snake.

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Originally Posted by Dorrox

BRIGHT202, everything you have done is normal.

Snakes are easy to care for once you get used to them, but until then, it really does seem close to impossable. I spent weeks stressing out with my corn snakes then the balls but now Im good. I spent alot of $$ thats just sitting in my basement now cause it was sold to me as "a must have" buy store store people.

Your humidity is ok , can try the damp newspaper or papertowel but isnt nessesary. Just watch temps, one hide should be 90-92. I would get a few more hides in there, hides can be a small shoebox with a hole, old tupperware with a hole , anything it doesnt need to cost $$ or be pretty.

Leave him for the week. Pick a day that you are normally home or have will have time same day every week.

I feed FT so what I do is fill a small bowl with HOT tap water put mouse in for a few min, then pour out and refill with HOT tap water again till mouse is nice and thawed.

Leave the bowl near the cage as the smell will reach the snake. Use tongs ($2 store bought) and hold the mouse dangle it around his hide and near the opening of it. He should start to stick his head out if hes interested. If so wiggle a little and move it a little closer and he should hit it. If not place mouse on some newspaper and place near the opening (dont want the aspen to get in his mouth)

If still nothing try a live one in a few days, but dont leave the room while its in there.

I wrote waaaayy to much :)

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Thank you guys, it relieves the stress for me, like in my other posts my dad wantes him in a tank that wasn't proper for the snake, but he has now allowed to to switch to the tub. one question though, i was reading the DIY for plastic housing and wanted to know if i put a lamp on the tub to i need a UTH right away, because i wont be able to get a UTH for about 2 weeks so what should I do.
Thanks again


-Mitch

Relieves the stress for you??? And you "Hope that this isn't too harsh"???? I deleted my last post just because I figured other newer members who hadn't read the history of your posts didn't need to see it and get a bad perception of the forum in general, but you just don't listen to anyone.

You wouldn't need to be stressed out - and neither would your poor snake - if you'd bothered to listen to any of the multitude of us who told you *before* you got the snake to wait until you could ensure everything with your Dad was worked out before bringing it home. And given that same advice in countless posts on here, and yet you still decided act rashly and bring one home right away KNOWING that you couldn't offer the snake the proper care. I also recall a member telling you to go ahead and bring one home, then feed him and watch him refuse it, and then try again and watch him refuse it, then get your dad to try and watch the snake refuse again - and then pay the vet bill.... No yeah, this is harsh, but you were given all this information in advance and you still failed to listen to anyone. And now, you're asking for help again and saying that you feel so bad and are stressed out - yet you're still failing to actually take any of the advice until it's convenient for you to do so.

No, a light most likely won't do the trick for the warm side because they really need belly heat, the lamp will just end up heating up the entire tank, or making it too hot towards the top of the enclosure and not hot enough at the bottom, and risking burns if you're measuring the temp at ground level where he needs it, but then if he rubs against the top of the tub where it's definately hotter but not measured.

If you can't afford a 25$ (from petsmart, which is the pricyest place to get it) UTH for another 2 weeks, what are you going to do if you ever need to take him to the vet?

Print off some research and give it to your Father and get the snake properly taken care of now - not later when you risk it getting even skinnier and sick on top of that.

And I really do appologize to any other members. I try to offer the best help and advice I can to any member, and especially to new members and people who are actually putting the care of their pets above their own 'wants'... But after following the multitude of threads telling him *exactly* what would happen if he brought home the animal and put it in the type of home he was providing - his completely ignoring that and doing it anyway - and then asking for help when exactly what he was told would happen happened...

Well, I just don't have much tolerance for people who blatently disregard the needs of an animal - that's why we require rescue centers and shelters.

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Relieves the stress for you??? And you "Hope that this isn't too harsh"???? I deleted my last post just because I figured other newer members who hadn't read the history of your posts didn't need to see it and get a bad perception of the forum in general, but you just don't listen to anyone.

You wouldn't need to be stressed out - and neither would your poor snake - if you'd bothered to listen to any of the multitude of us who told you *before* you got the snake to wait until you could ensure everything with your Dad was worked out before bringing it home. And given that same advice in countless posts on here, and yet you still decided act rashly and bring one home right away KNOWING that you couldn't offer the snake the proper care. I also recall a member telling you to go ahead and bring one home, then feed him and watch him refuse it, and then try again and watch him refuse it, then get your dad to try and watch the snake refuse again - and then pay the vet bill.... No yeah, this is harsh, but you were given all this information in advance and you still failed to listen to anyone. And now, you're asking for help again and saying that you feel so bad and are stressed out - yet you're still failing to actually take any of the advice until it's convenient for you to do so.

No, a light most likely won't do the trick for the warm side because they really need belly heat, the lamp will just end up heating up the entire tank, or making it too hot towards the top of the enclosure and not hot enough at the bottom, and risking burns if you're measuring the temp at ground level where he needs it, but then if he rubs against the top of the tub where it's definately hotter but not measured.

If you can't afford a 25$ (from petsmart, which is the pricyest place to get it) UTH for another 2 weeks, what are you going to do if you ever need to take him to the vet?

Print off some research and give it to your Father and get the snake properly taken care of now - not later when you risk it getting even skinnier and sick on top of that.

And I really do appologize to any other members. I try to offer the best help and advice I can to any member, and especially to new members and people who are actually putting the care of their pets above their own 'wants'... But after following the multitude of threads telling him *exactly* what would happen if he brought home the animal and put it in the type of home he was providing - his completely ignoring that and doing it anyway - and then asking for help when exactly what he was told would happen happened...

Well, I just don't have much tolerance for people who blatently disregard the needs of an animal - that's why we require rescue centers and shelters.

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Uhh okay, I'm sorry that your upset with me, but OBVIOUSLY you don't understand what I've been saying I wanted to keep him in the tub, but my dad didn't want him in a tub. But after I had received complaints and explained to my father that my snake CANNOT live in this tank he agreed and told me to move it to the tub. And I'm sorry you feel mad that I can't go out and buy a UTH right now, but my family and I are going through some financial ISSUES right now and you really don't need to stress me out about this anymore than I am stressed out. And if your all wondering why the heck I would get a BP, its because I have a passion for reptiles, I absolutely LOVE them. And I'm sorry that I have to wait a while until I can get a UTH for my tub. Other than that my snake is perfectly FINE. He is now eating, he isn't trying to escape, he's friendly, temp is 92.4 and humidity is around 40,(which is why i NEED to move him to a tub) And for the people who are going to rant on and tell me how I'm a bad person, just honestly don't even talk to me because i really dont need to hear any more. But for the people who would like to tell me friendly advice, go right ahead. Have a good night.

Mitch

Let me first say that I hope you get everything ironed out for both you and the snakes sake. After reading GirDance's last post I have to ask. A UTH is pretty much the most essential thing a ball python needs. If you had already been here on this site prior to bringing your snake home why on gods earth would you not plan on getting a UTH? If you have a passion for reptiles as you say you do I would think that being 100% sure you had everything you needed before bringing the snake home would be top priority. Even more so seeing you already got advice here before buying the snake.

Regardless, I hope you get everything worked out ASAP. Don't forget that you are going to need a thermostat or a dimmer to safely use a UTH.