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Prey size...

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  • 07-25-2007, 08:40 PM
    sophia
    Re: Prey size...
    I'm not sure if this is possible, but how many inches (ish) is a small rat?

    I wonder if it's pretty much the same throughout the country?
  • 07-25-2007, 09:26 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sophia
    I'm not sure if this is possible, but how many inches (ish) is a small rat?
    I wonder if it's pretty much the same throughout the country?

    I don't really calculate that way the one I use are 4 weeks old 45 to 65 grams. I just never measure length of any animals as it is really a pain to do :rolleyes:
  • 07-25-2007, 09:35 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kagez28
    do you have a female for him?

    Aye.. She could use a little weight too, but she's already healthy.
  • 07-26-2007, 03:18 PM
    CntrlF8
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    If it helps, here's what I do give or take. These numbers are off the top of my head ...

    (also, this doesn't cover mousers)

    Right now my 2006 hatchlings range approx 300 - 800 grams ... they are all eating fuzzy rats weekly.

    My 2005 hatchlings are about 800 - 1200 grams (again this is all approx) ... they are eating weaned rats weekly.

    My adults range 1200 - 4800 grams and eat "small small" rats weekly ... I don't feed mediums or full grown smalls to anyone.

    Each person should do what works for them ... this works for me and for people that I have helped with their ball pythons that had feeding problems ... I have tremendous success feeding my ball pythons this way ... no fasting, no refusals, everyone grows at a predictable rate and is breedable when they are breedable. My collection is checked by my vet twice a year and is flawless.

    I hope that this information is helpful to someone.

    -adam

    Ok, to summarize, by weight and not a 100% exact guide:

    Hatchlings to 300g not listed, but I'm assuming pinkies, 5-10g

    Juveniles up to approx 800g eating fuzzies, 10-20g

    Sub adults 800-1200g eating weanlings, 30-45g

    Adults over 1200g eating small smalls, 45-65g

    Right?
  • 07-26-2007, 03:27 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Prey size...
    I'm still not understanding what everyone means by small smalls.

    Can anybody elaborate?
  • 07-26-2007, 03:33 PM
    Tainted Glory
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime
    I'm still not understanding what everyone means by small smalls.

    Can anybody elaborate?

    Rather than feed a massive rodent every week, stick to a smaller rodent.
  • 07-26-2007, 03:48 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CntrlF8
    Ok, to summarize, by weight and not a 100% exact guide:

    Hatchlings to 300g not listed, but I'm assuming pinkies, 5-10g

    Juveniles up to approx 800g eating fuzzies, 10-20g

    Sub adults 800-1200g eating weanlings, 30-45g

    Adults over 1200g eating small smalls, 45-65g

    Right?

    I don't weigh my rats (or snakes for that matter), so I honestly couldn't say. I don't believe that I'm feeding anything larger than 50 grams when it comes to smalls ... small smalls are weans with a couple extra days on them when I pull them.

    Hope this helps.

    -adam
  • 07-26-2007, 04:16 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Prey size...
    I think one of the confusing thing is terminology. I use rat pups, some say rat fuzzy, some places don't use the weanling phrase but go right to small rats. Either way large food items usually lead to inconsistent feeding and/or obesity. Just cause your snake will eat larger meals every 3-5 days doen't make it ok. One thing my vet said to me is they get virtually no excersize in captivity compared to the wild and don't get a fraction of the food in the wild either. Fat snakes don't breed well(or at all) and can have health problems so those who think breeding will come sooner should think again. Guys with LOTS of experiece, like Adam, know what they are talking about. When I first started out one of my girls always wanted to eat, so when someone else refused a meal she became the garbage can and although she gained weight she became way behind and very unpredictable with her breeding cycle. So she went on a diet and hopefully will become as predictable as my other girls. I thought I would be breeding sooner but just like previously stated I am way behind. This also holds true for males. Chunky males don't breed well either. Hope this is helpful. :)
  • 07-26-2007, 04:29 PM
    Kagez28
    Re: Prey size...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CntrlF8
    Ok, to summarize, by weight and not a 100% exact guide:

    Hatchlings to 300g not listed, but I'm assuming pinkies, 5-10g

    Juveniles up to approx 800g eating fuzzies, 10-20g

    Sub adults 800-1200g eating weanlings, 30-45g

    Adults over 1200g eating small smalls, 45-65g

    Right?

    are you talking about rats or mice?
  • 07-26-2007, 04:53 PM
    dr del
    Re: Prey size...
    Hi,


    He is talking about rats in this case.


    dr del
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