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  • 07-03-2007, 02:53 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    And no, I don't sleep with my snakes...Most of the time.

    Why does this remind me of an old 80s tune by King Missile. Detachable what? :D
  • 07-03-2007, 02:54 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xdeus
    Why does this remind me of an old 80s tune by King Missile. Detachable what? :D

    Great song!

    People sometimes tell me I should get it permanently attached,
    but I don't know.
  • 07-03-2007, 03:18 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Great song!

    People sometimes tell me I should get it permanently attached,
    but I don't know.

    "Sometimes it's a PITA, but I like my DP." :8:

    Man, they just don't write songs like that anymore...
  • 07-03-2007, 06:55 PM
    Krazy99CL
    Re: Say what?
    Monster ringer. lol. I wouldnt mind having it.
  • 07-03-2007, 11:13 PM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Say what?
    Interesting pic...I guess this is what cue meant when that

    "Another interesting tidbit is that a paradox albino that has a great amount of "normal" pattern might be genetically a het[erozygous] albino and not a homo[zygous] albino"

    Nice to get a visual to accompany it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC
    If you bred it to a visual albino (homo) to this snake and hatched out any normals, then it would be proven as a het rather than a homo...because two homozygous albinos bred together would produce all albino babies.

    That's right...and I pointed that out in the previous thread. But remember that any breeding experiment really only proves the genotype of the cells in the germ line. :) It says nothing about the genotypes of different somatic cells in the body.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    . Sometimes the recessive genes influence some of the cell development and and then the wild type half takes over. :D:D:D

    Recessive genes by the strictest definition need two copies in order to manifest themselves in the phenotype. Biochemically we know standard albinos as having an inborn error in the metabolism of melanin. Having only one recessive allele isn't going to produce an albino appearance because the albino appearance isn't really the result of having anything new...instead it results from the absence of a functional tryosinase gene on both chromsomes.

    I suppose that during development that the cell could use only one copy of the tyrosinase gene and the later find out that it had a functional reserve copy....but I find this highly unlikely...I'd think we see heterozygous albinos showing the albino phenotype more.....and then we classify albino as a dominant mutation. It could also be some kind of messed up transcriptional regulation of the tryosinase loci.....but again I doubt it.....

    Instead I think this is some sort of chimerism or mosaicism.
  • 07-04-2007, 12:40 AM
    KYSHA
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    It's a paradox. Part normal coloration and part albino. They randomly pop up from time to time. Personally, I think they are butt ugly though.

    So do I. I think they look like they have a disease.. But that is just my opinion
  • 07-04-2007, 01:29 AM
    crisstyle21
    Re: Say what?
    :colbert: I disagree all the way baby. Paradox albino has to be one of the coolest morphs. They look like the Bp colored itself albino and got cought in the rain and some of the paint had washed off
  • 07-04-2007, 01:34 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    Instead I think this is some sort of chimerism or mosaicism.

    That does seem to fit in. If it is a chimera of an albino and non albino sibling, depending on the parentage and which sibling is responsible for the reproductive parts it's possible the paradox might not even breed as a het albino.
  • 07-04-2007, 03:09 AM
    xdeus
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mendel's Balls
    Instead I think this is some sort of chimerism or mosaicism.

    I was hoping someone would chime in with a plausible explanation. I've read about chimerism, but this is the first I've heard about mosaicism. Thanks for the info!
  • 07-04-2007, 10:24 AM
    Mendel's Balls
    Re: Say what?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington
    it's possible the paradox might not even breed as a het albino.

    Good point..
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