michael moore... sicko

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

You also have to be a citizen for 1 calender year before you can apply for socolized med. and most places there want take your payment. so with-in your first year there if you get sick your screwed. :D

---

Not to mention that it's not "free" at all. Where does the gov't get the money for all this "free" health care, anyway? :lmao:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by darkangel

I'm not sure what kills me more -- the cost of my monthly insurance or paying cash for visits. If I had something life threatening, I know it would pay off in the long run... but... My birth control alone costs me 55 dollars a month, insurance won't cover a penny of it. In fact I think the majority of the meds I have taken in the last five years, my "rx plan" has only covered a miniscule amount of -- we're talking 5, 10 dollars. And yet even if it did, my insurance drains the life out of my paycheck. One year waiting period or not, you guys have it made up there. :D

---

Join Planned Parenthood and start helping us lobby to get BC covered by insurance.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jonny2184

Some day I think the US will do something like Canada does. Id like to see that. I have family in the US and my old grandma is there. Expensive stuff being old!

---

Yeah, that would be great! I mean, look at what the US gov't has done with our educational system! Man, I'd love to have my health care in their capable hands as well...
/sarcasm

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SarahMB

Not to mention that it's not "free" at all. Where does the gov't get the money for all this "free" health care, anyway? :lmao:

---

If I'm not mistaken Canada doen't have sales tax or income taxs and all that the just have a flat tax that is figured based on you income and thats all you pay in taxes. I could be wrong but I think thats how it works.

They do have income tax, and people who make more than $60k per year pay the higher amounts. It's a Robin Hood system, imo.

I hate jumping into pot stirring threads and do my best to just avoid them most of the time, and while I agree our health care system needs some major work. Good old mr moore is a socialist fat *** lying peace of crap. And no offense to our neighbors to the north, but they ALL pay over 50% income tax for their "free health care". Also if you look at the actual studies of canadian care 3 fold the number of people die up there on a waiting list for surgery than do people down here.

Individual circumstances sometimes push our believes one way or the other but please don't go out and watch a movie by a proven liar that preaches himself as a documentary but has to fudge and edit/pull individual lines from from greater texts to try and prove misguided ideologies....

Let good old mr moore move to his beloved cuba or Venezuela and see how long he last degrading the presidents or polices of those nations and once locked up for it I'm sure he'll come around to realizing how good he has it here. In theory or on paper Socialism is great, everyone is equal, life is great, its a great big liberal love feast however in reality, we are not all equal, we all have individual talents that propel some to great levels. Some people deserve to be rich and start/run great companies, employ millions of people and other get to be great artists, maybe making squat but get to live wonderful fulfilling lives and are not required to work in coal mine or where ever because of being from a certain area. Our county has flaws but is truly the greatest, FREEst place on earth and I think that we all forget that all to often.

Sorry for the rant, first real online rant I've ever had, kinda feels good...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SarahMB

Yeah, that would be great! I mean, look at what the US gov't has done with our educational system! Man, I'd love to have my health care in their capable hands as well...
/sarcasm

---

Yea no kidding I'd rather pay though the butt and risk getting great care than not pay and get what the govenment gives me..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SarahMB

They do have income tax, and people who make more than $60k per year pay the higher amounts. It's a Robin Hood system, imo.

---

sounds allot like this thing this guy tried doing years ago. Where everybody works so that everybody can have the same of everything (health care/food/dental) and the government runs it all tells you when you can go to the doctor, what the employers can pay.

Sound familure anyone ????

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by neilgolli

I hate jumping into pot stirring threads and do my best to just avoid them most of the time, and while I agree our health care system needs some major work. Good old mr moore is a socialist fat *** lying peace of crap. And no offense to our neighbors to the north, but they ALL pay over 50% income tax for their "free health care". Also if you look at the actual studies of canadian care 3 fold the number of people die up there on a waiting list for surgery than do people down here.

Individual circumstances sometimes push our believes one way or the other but please don't go out and watch a movie by a proven liar that preaches himself as a documentary but has to fudge and edit/pull individual lines from from greater texts to try and prove misguided ideologies....

Let good old mr moore move to his beloved cuba or Venezuela and see how long he last degrading the presidents or polices of those nations and once locked up for it I'm sure he'll come around to realizing how good he has it here. In theory or on paper Socialism is great, everyone is equal, life is great, its a great big liberal love feast however in reality, we are not all equal, we all have individual talents that propel some to great levels. Some people deserve to be rich and start/run great companies, employ millions of people and other get to be great artists, maybe making squat but get to live wonderful fulfilling lives and are not required to work in coal mine or where ever because of being from a certain area. Our county has flaws but is truly the greatest, FREEst place on earth and I think that we all forget that all to often.

Sorry for the rant, first real online rant I've ever had, kinda feels good...

---

A friggin-men!

Health care in the USA needs more than a little work but the price of health care is not changing anytime soon until we can get the gov't to get a grip on the insurance industry.

As for our neighbors to the north and their health care, yes, they are taxed unreal and there system leaves a lot to be desired other than cheap scripts.

It's sad that the elderly and most of middle working class Americans are screwed when it comes to health care. Here in my area we had a 12yo child die from a tooth infection because he couldn't afford a dentist and the medicad dentists are so filled up and will only see a limited number of patients.
It's a crime when a child dies from a tooth because on insurance issues.

I have been blessed the last 4 years. The company I work for pays 100% of my health coverage and my families. It is good coverage. I had to go to the hospital for a 24 hr stay because they thought I was having a heart attack and I had all kind of tests etc and the cost was over 5 grand and all I had to pay was 75.00 which was my co-pay for the emergency room.

My sister has devoted her life to community health care. It's her area of expertise. She has a Phd in nursing/community health. She currently teaches grad students @ Rutgers U. She has spent much time on Capitol Hill trying to get some of those nimrods to understand. So you can imagine it is something that is discussed in our family gatherings to no end.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by neilgolli

Sorry for the rant, first real online rant I've ever had, kinda feels good...

---

I thought it was quite good, for a first!