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  • 05-07-2007, 07:39 AM
    fishmommy
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    I really don't like the hybridization of such vastly different species. You end up with an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown. A lot of this goes on in the fish hobby, and it has always bothered me. I guess I'm a purist :P
  • 05-07-2007, 07:46 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fishmommy
    I really don't like the hybridization of such vastly different species. You end up with an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown. A lot of this goes on in the fish hobby, and it has always bothered me. I guess I'm a purist :P

    Unfortunately this seems to be the fad. Look at all the strange dogs that are coming out lately. Labadoodle, Puggle, etc. We will have to watch and see if anything comes from this animal. :)
  • 05-07-2007, 08:22 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fishmommy
    I really don't like the hybridization of such vastly different species. You end up with an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown. A lot of this goes on in the fish hobby, and it has always bothered me. I guess I'm a purist :P

    100% totally agree.

    I mean will it have the temperament of a ball or a burm? Hybrids are something I never really liked even in corn snakes ...

    Just my two cents. .
  • 05-07-2007, 09:30 AM
    joyful girl
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog
    100% totally agree.

    I mean will it have the temperament of a ball or a burm? Hybrids are something I never really liked even in corn snakes ...

    Just my two cents. .

    agreed
  • 05-07-2007, 09:37 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fishmommy
    I really don't like the hybridization of such vastly different species. You end up with an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown. A lot of this goes on in the fish hobby, and it has always bothered me. I guess I'm a purist :P

    Just to play the Devil's advocate....

    When people first started keeping ANY reptile.....they all had "an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown." so I really don't see how that can be an issue if something 'new' is kept.

    If animals can be 'hybridized' then they are not that vastly different....genetically speaking ;)

    On to my opinion...

    One thing that bothers me is when hybrids are created instead of devoting more time to an originating species....Angolan pythons are an example. I see angolans being sold with the 'you can cross this with a ball python and create something cool' attitude. Why not just create more angolans? They are low in number in captivity, but people still feel the urge to tinker.

    Other than that, I see no problem with hybrids as long as there is no possible chance that they can be released into the wild and people do not 'abuse' the ability to hybridize.
  • 05-07-2007, 09:43 AM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Ugly...
  • 05-07-2007, 09:47 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    but people still feel the urge to tinker.

    It is this need to tinker that drives up sales. If Angolans didn't produce something cool when bred to balls sales wouldn't be half what they are. Lets face it this is true with ball morphs people buy the crazy and odd stuff to see what it can do when bred to ....whatever. Like YB's when they first hit the scene it was wow kinda cool, "could be something cool" we'll sell them for 250.00 then ivory's popped out and bam! prices sky rocketed. Blurry balls??? Seen them on and off last year then no one wants to talk about them..

    Tinkering to further understand the genetics of a species in the terms of pet trade is all good. Introducing the years of line breeding of one species to the years of breeding to another species is totally different. There needs to be more generations of this animal before we can fully understand the out come of its existence.
  • 05-07-2007, 09:47 AM
    lord jackel
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daniel1983
    Just to play the Devil's advocate....

    When people first started keeping ANY reptile.....they all had "an animal whose lifetime requirements are unknown, and whose health prospects are unknown." so I really don't see how that can be an issue if something 'new' is kept.

    If animals can be 'hybridized' then they are not that vastly different....genetically speaking ;)

    On to my opinion...

    One thing that bothers me is when hybrids are created instead of devoting more time to an originating species....Angolan pythons are an example. I see angolans being sold with the 'you can cross this with a ball python and create something cool' attitude. Why not just create more angolans? They are low in number in captivity, but people still feel the urge to tinker.

    Other than that, I see no problem with hybrids as long as there is no possible chance that they can be released into the wild and people do not 'abuse' the ability to hybridize.

    Very well said. I agree with you :yes:
  • 05-07-2007, 09:48 AM
    daniel1983
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    Burm pattern, BP head, but it looks like it may be a bit deformed due to the way the back part of the body is shaped.

    The back part of the body looks like that baby sucked up a huge yolk. A baby ball python with a burm size egg yolk.....if it inherits the ball python appetite, i bet it does not eat for a month and a half.....ha ha
  • 05-07-2007, 09:51 AM
    SnakeEyes
    Re: Ball x Burm - Looks like it has been accomplished
    "He cherishes 1,1 albino Burm and 1,1 Ballpython at the same cage"


    :O :O
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