Gun rodeo :)

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Originally Posted by Shirkin

I actually wouldn't mind one of those. But really, what design flaw do you speak of? Direct gas impingment? As opposed to the gas piston design of the HK?

AK's use gas piston, and while it is probably more reliable, I have had many an AR-15, and my only malfunctions have either been 1) Ammo related, 2) Magazine related, or 3) I haven't cleaned the thing for 3000 rounds :D And <----- one only happened with my first AR, never since.

And my AK has overall been less reliable then my AR's.

(Not to mention the price tag on one of those HK's) :)

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The gas blow back that fouls the receiver and most of the internal parts is the main problem. I've had EVERY M16 and AR-15 I've ever used jam on me. Regardless of how new or clean it was or what type/quality ammo I was using. It is a big problem and has been since it's inception in the early 1960's and has been widely documented.

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Originally Posted by panthercz

The gas blow back that fouls the receiver and most of the internal parts is the main problem. I've had EVERY M16 and AR-15 I've ever used jam on me. Regardless of how new or clean it was or what type/quality ammo I was using. It is a big problem and has been since it's inception in the early 1960's and has been widely documented.

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The early, early versions had problems with fouling, but that was due to the powder of the ammo they were using.

That sucks you've had bad experiences :mad:

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Originally Posted by Shirkin

The early, early versions had problems with fouling, but that was due to the powder of the ammo they were using.

That sucks you've had bad experiences :mad:

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bingo thats because of the amount of parfin that was in the powder made a sticky burnt residue after only a few rounds.

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Originally Posted by Shirkin

The early, early versions had problems with fouling, but that was due to the powder of the ammo they were using.

That sucks you've had bad experiences :mad:

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I used a brand new AR-15 just a couple years ago with less than 100 rounds through it and it started jamming. The fouling was indeed worse with early models that were first released over 40 years ago. But it's still an issue even with brand new models.

Colt though after seeing what HK did will be doing the same and will start producing M4's and M16's with the same design. It's just sad it took that long for them to make the change.

Different folks different strokes I guess :)

Ginevive, here is a link to some Mini-14 forums that I found. I normally peruse www.ar15.com, so I don't know much about this forum. But it looks like they have lots of good info.

http://perfectunion.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=86