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  • 04-15-2007, 01:05 PM
    crisstyle21
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JBallPython
    Why did you buy a het pied male if you are just going to breed your female het pied to a visual pied?:confused:

    I was like wow I would love to take that shortcut to get 2 extra pieds and all hets. Dont want 1 pied and all hets and normals. If I cant find anyone its alright I have no promblem mating them. I plan on buying a extra pair of hets in oct. I love having them there so cute!!! cant wait till my girl gets mature enough to mate
  • 04-15-2007, 01:30 PM
    jknudson
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crisstyle21
    I was like wow I would love to take that shortcut to get 2 extra pieds and all hets. Dont want 1 pied and all hets and normals. If I cant find anyone its alright I have no promblem mating them. I plan on buying a extra pair of hets in oct. I love having them there so cute!!! cant wait till my girl gets mature enough to mate

    Um...you could get all pieds from a het X het breeding... With the het breeding each egg has a 25% chance of being a homozygous (visual) animal. Each egg COULD be normal, het pied, or pied.... so you could get all normals (which would be pretty bad luck, or falsely labeled het parents), all hets (which will be normal appearing) or all pieds...or a mix of all.

    But again, you would know that...
  • 04-15-2007, 01:48 PM
    crisstyle21
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    "Um...you could get all pieds from a het X het breeding"..

    umm no you cant. what kind of golden chances is that? Ill have a better chance of winning 5 billion dollars then getting all visuals from het n het. The chances are slim when bredding het n het. But if you breed visual n het the chances of getting atleast one pied will be more towards your favor.

    Wait hold up!!! first of all out of all this talk about getting homozygous. I still have to prove the 100% het is what the breeder said she was. Then we can talk..lol..But I have a strong feeling she is.
  • 04-15-2007, 02:28 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crisstyle21
    umm no you cant.

    Yes ... you can. Each egg has a 1 in 4 chance of either being a pied or not. I've seen it happen many times.

    Once you have some experience with genetics, you'll realize that things aren't as absolute as you believe them to be.

    -adam
  • 04-15-2007, 02:45 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    I still have to prove the 100% het is what the breeder said she was.
    Actually no you don't. If you got that 100% het from a reputable breeder you don't have to "prove" it. Proving a 100% het indicates a less than 100% certainty that the stated genetics are actually what they were said to be IMHO.
  • 04-15-2007, 02:51 PM
    AzureN1ght
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Aren't the odds exactly the same when breeding two 100% hets as with breeding one 100% het to a visible animal?
  • 04-15-2007, 02:54 PM
    Uncle Festae
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crisstyle21

    umm no you cant.

    Yes you can ;)

    And you could also get ALL normal looking hets from a Pied x Het breeding ;)

    Those odds are just that, odds! Not rules ;)
  • 04-15-2007, 04:21 PM
    rabernet
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crisstyle21
    Wait hold up!!! first of all out of all this talk about getting homozygous. I still have to prove the 100% het is what the breeder said she was. Then we can talk..lol..But I have a strong feeling she is.

    Either you trust your breeder or you don't. 100% het means that it doesn't need "proving out", it means that there's 100% chance that it carries the gene.

    So, it sounds like you don't trust who you got them from? Didn't he provide you with the guarantee of genetics?
  • 04-15-2007, 04:23 PM
    rabernet
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crisstyle21
    lol. The agreement can be that the visual owner keeps your girl for about 2-4 days.. I will only do this If I got to really know the person and made sure where the bps are gonna be mating at is clean and disease and parasite free.

    What? What about the 90 day quarantine that the breeder should insist on doing with any new animal that comes into his collection? I wouldn't be doing a breeding loan with anyone who didn't at least insist on that.
  • 04-15-2007, 04:25 PM
    crisstyle21
    Re: My Two new babies(Het Pieds)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    Yes ... you can. Each egg has a 1 in 4 chance of either being a pied or not. I've seen it happen many times.

    Once you have some experience with genetics, you'll realize that things aren't as absolute as you believe them to be.

    -adam


    I said this 1 out of 4 have chances of being visual. What the other member was saying was that if you get two hets you can get all visuals and I said thats impossible
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