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I think that this all stems frm there being no accepted price for normal, breeder females.. you can generally say that now, "an '06 albino male is worth about $1200." But what price for the breeder female?
Personally I don't think this deal would be fair to the albino trader; maybe if something else were added to the female? But still I would be leary.. that's just me though. :)
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I appreciate everyone's opinion...they are all good, valid ones. Thanks...I knew I could depend on you guys. I didn't think anyone would trade me anyways.......i just thought I'd "throw my curiosity out there". See, I lost my little het albino male :( and it got me thinking. I am kinda partial to my big girl, so i guess it's better that i keep her anyway......(hoping to get 10 eggs from her this year! ....some pastels...:D)
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I think the days of $1000 female breeders are gone (unless maybe if she is just a monster that produces 12+ eggs a season). Female breeders are becoming much more readily available now. I am assuming it is because a lot of the bigger breeders are replacing normal females with morph females? I bought a 3000g proven female in Daytona from a very well respected breeder for $300. That is about the most I would pay for a normal. As for your trade, if it were me with the albino I would consider a trade for 3 big proven females.
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Originally Posted by pfan151
I think the days of $1000 female breeders are gone (unless maybe if she is just a monster that produces 12+ eggs a season). Female breeders are becoming much more readily available now. I am assuming it is because a lot of the bigger breeders are replacing normal females with morph females? I bought a 3000g proven female in Daytona from a very well respected breeder for $300. That is about the most I would pay for a normal. As for your trade, if it were me with the albino I would consider a trade for 3 big proven females.
I disagree on the $1000 female days being gone.It takes alot to get those girls that big and since they are proven breeders(this does not include those WC) and since all you need is 1 high dollar co-dom or dom and $$$.It would take alot more then $1000 to get me to sell either of the 3 girls i have now,even when i have morph breeders down the line.In my situation i still love seeing those little heads pip out whether they are norms or morphs:cool: .
Re: Would this be an unfair trade?
I'd keep the albino...given a choice, I'd rather clean doo doo up after a female albino rather than a normal female, regardless if she was proven or not. 1000-1500 gram normal females aren't all that hard to find and won't require you to ditch a visible female morph that will be much more valuable to you later on.
But hey, if Jimmy has a bumble bee male and wants to make a quick buck, trading his female albino for a breedable normal might be a good deal in his eyes...who wants to wait 3 years to make a return on your investment anyway? ;) :rolleyes:
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But hey, if Jimmy has a bumble bee male and wants to make a quick buck, trading his female albino for a breedable normal might be a good deal in his eyes...who wants to wait 3 years to make a return on your investment anyway? ;) :rolleyes:
I think that's really what it comes down to.
Trades are fine as long as both parties consider them fair. Third parties are welcome to their opinions, but it really doesn't matter what they think. Although this is more of a straight trade, here's an example.
The great majority of snakes I had in my collection came from trading my web design/development skills. To me, it was the greatest deal ever... I was doing something almost second nature to me and was getting snakes out of the deal. But I'm sure the people I traded with felt the same way.
Given that... I'd keep the Albino :D
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I disagree on the $1000 female days being gone.It takes alot to get those girls that big and since they are proven breeders(this does not include those WC) and since all you need is 1 high dollar co-dom or dom and $$$.It would take alot more then $1000 to get me to sell either of the 3 girls i have now,even when i have morph breeders down the line.In my situation i still love seeing those little heads pip out whether they are norms or morphs:cool: .
How many females would you like? I can let about 5 go. I will pm you my Payapl address so you can send the 5k :) . Seriously though I don't disagree that they can be worth $1000. They can easily produce more than $1000 worth of codoms in the first season. My point is they are no longer selling for $1000. Why would someone pay $1000 for a snake that can now be bought for $300 or less? Obviously you want to trust the person you are buying from but I bought mine from a very well respected breeder that is actually a sponsor on this site and I saw plenty of other female breeders for sale in Daytona. I also think the Codoms price drop really hurt normal females value. Your point is about what they can produce is correct, but the animals are only worth(monitarily at least) what someone is willing to pay and I can't imagine there is anyone out there getting 1k for normal females anymore.
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I noticed the price has dropped for albinos....is that for both sexes???? That also means a price drop for the hets as well too i guess......
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How many females would you like? I can let about 5 go. I will pm you my Payapl address so you can send the 5k :) . Seriously though I don't disagree that they can be worth $1000. They can easily produce more than $1000 worth of codoms in the first season. My point is they are no longer selling for $1000. Why would someone pay $1000 for a snake that can now be bought for $300 or less? Obviously you want to trust the person you are buying from but I bought mine from a very well respected breeder that is actually a sponsor on this site and I saw plenty of other female breeders for sale in Daytona. I also think the Codoms price drop really hurt normal females value. Your point is about what they can produce is correct, but the animals are only worth(monitarily at least) what someone is willing to pay and I can't imagine there is anyone out there getting 1k for normal females anymore.
all depends on the girl!! "worth" is very variable and depends on the people involved also.
$1000.00 isn't even close to the ball park for this girl
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