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  • 01-05-2007, 09:04 AM
    newbpfanatic
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Griggs2121
    No I don't. I will be producing some eventually here. I say $1,000 because you can go on kingsnake classifieds right now and find some for that price.

    I was under the impression that sites such as Kingsnake classifieds were a guideline for shoppers. I've since learned these prices are negotiable 90% of the time, is this not right? Some guy selling Albinos for $1200, may take $1000. Some guy selling at $1000, may take $850. Is this the same for shows?

    Forgive my being green here, but how do breeders know where to price snakes each year and adjust for high sales or slow slumps? How can one estimate Albinos for $1000 this year? What if in June Kingsnake has Albinos being offered between $1000-$800 and some selling for as low as $600 privately?
  • 01-05-2007, 09:10 AM
    PipeDADDY
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by newbpfanatic
    I was under the impression that sites such as Kingsnake classifieds were a guideline for shoppers. I've since learned these prices are negotiable 90% of the time, is this not right? Some guy selling Albinos for $1200, may take $1000. Some guy selling at $1000, may take $850. Is this the same for shows?

    Forgive my being green here, but how do breeders know where to price snakes each year and adjust for high sales or slow slumps? How can one estimate Albinos for $1000 this year? What if in June Kingsnake has Albinos being offered between $1000-$800 and some selling for as low as $600 privately?

    Everything is negoitiable! Typically the last day of a show is the best time to negotiate. However it is also the worst time for selection. everything is pretty picked over. It all depends on the motivation of the seller. Some are willing to drop, others are just testing the waters. They may not really want to sell a snake, but would for the right price.

    The point of it is ... if you dont ask for less....you wont get it. but if you do, you will ussually get something. The more motivated your seller....the more likely hood of success.

    Keep in mind...PEOPLE ARE ESTIMATING the price based on their experience. I am sure no one here can predict the future....so people are stating price based on past years and experience of the market.

    Good luck!
  • 01-05-2007, 11:08 AM
    elevatethis
    Re: about albino ball python
    I just can't get over how just because a few desperate sellers dump snakes for 50% or more below the previous asking price, everyone else selling the animals automatically assume that price is the new "market price."

    The people desperate for sales are the ones that jumped into all of this looking to make quick money. They invested X amount 2-3 years ago and are itching for a return on that.

    Also keep in mind that the more you discuss dropping prices or brag about the great deals you get in public, the value of the animals in the minds of most people decrease, and you are essentially chipping away bit by bit on the potential return you could see from your own investment.

    In any event, I hate these ball market threads. I have such a great time and have met some really awesome people with this hobby and constantly being exposed to stuff like this really takes some of the fun out of it.
  • 01-05-2007, 11:53 AM
    Griggs2121
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    Also keep in mind that the more you discuss dropping prices or brag about the great deals you get in public, the value of the animals in the minds of most people decrease, and you are essentially chipping away bit by bit on the potential return you could see from your own investment.

    Better than a false sense of the market, just what people "want" the market to be.
  • 01-05-2007, 12:03 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Griggs2121
    Better than a false sense of the market, just what people "want" the market to be.

    If a breeder feels that the animal they are selling is worth $XXXX.XX to them, then they have every right to price the animal as such. There is no "false sense" of anything.
  • 01-05-2007, 02:49 PM
    djslurp1200
    Re: about albino ball python
    I want an albino...:rolleyes: That's all I have to say here... lol
  • 01-05-2007, 07:00 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: about albino ball python
    I'm working on albinos for next year.

    Come on get a little closer!!!
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...enaandAldo.JPG

    Closer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 01-05-2007, 07:03 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    I just can't get over how just because a few desperate sellers dump snakes for 50% or more below the previous asking price, everyone else selling the animals automatically assume that price is the new "market price."

    The people desperate for sales are the ones that jumped into all of this looking to make quick money. They invested X amount 2-3 years ago and are itching for a return on that.

    Also keep in mind that the more you discuss dropping prices or brag about the great deals you get in public, the value of the animals in the minds of most people decrease, and you are essentially chipping away bit by bit on the potential return you could see from your own investment.

    In any event, I hate these ball market threads. I have such a great time and have met some really awesome people with this hobby and constantly being exposed to stuff like this really takes some of the fun out of it.

    Agreeed!!!!!!!!!
  • 01-05-2007, 07:06 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kavmon
    prices will vary alot from breeder to breeder. some breeders have low prices and poor service. some have higher prices and excellent service and will be there to help you out whenever! prices will also vary from snake to snake, if i had a spectacular example of a morph for sale, it wouldn't be at the lowest price. :D


    personally, i'm willing to pay more for better service and peace of mind.

    support breeders who support you and your goals!


    vaughn

    Amen!
  • 01-06-2007, 03:14 AM
    Griggs2121
    Re: about albino ball python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    If a breeder feels that the animal they are selling is worth $XXXX.XX to them, then they have every right to price the animal as such. There is no "false sense" of anything.

    I think there is a bit of a false sense of the market. Prices vary so much yet everyone advertises about the same price. I'm still pretty new to this, so take it for whats its worth. I just enjoy owning snakes, so what do I know.
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