cool thing in terrarium to make people say wow!

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Originally Posted by cassandra

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The tub people are oppressing the tank people yet again. Yes, it takes more time to clean and maintain. Yes, it takes more vigiliance over the husbandry. And yes, it's probably more expensive.

But it's my hobby, dammit! I like caring for my snakes, working to make their enclosures look as good as possible and be spot on for humidity and temperature gradients. I am commited to that!

Tub people, please give some consideration to those snake keepers who want to keep their snakes in glass or display enclosures. We're people too!
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I am not saying tanks suck or anything, my point was that snakes don't care how elaborate the tank is.
Kudos to you for keeping snakes healthy in a tank and being commited to keeping your snakes . :)

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Originally Posted by JasonGranger

Great, you keep them in tanks. No one told you not to. It's just easier and less expensive using a tub. That's it.

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I will. I'm just tired of the general consensus of what seems to be the majority people of this messageboard that tubs are better, hands down. I find it very frustrating seeing it said over and over again; one method or the other is not the answer for everyone.

I used to keep my snakes in tanks. This was when I first got into ball pythons and I wanted my tanks to look visually appealing. Now I use tubs because I no longer have ball pythons for visual appeal (breeding now). To this day, I feel that there is absolutly nothing wrong with keeping your snakes in a tank for the visual aspect. Decorate it as you wish. I think some of those tanks in those pics look great! What ever keeps you happy, do it. As long as you can maintain the proper humidity and temps, then decorate as much as you want. I know from personal experiance that, yes, it is harder to maintain, but if looks is what you're after...then do it. Don't let anyone change your mind.

Great pics, and great enclosures. Thanks for sharing :)

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Originally Posted by cassandra

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The tub people are oppressing the tank people yet again. Yes, it takes more time to clean and maintain. Yes, it takes more vigiliance over the husbandry. And yes, it's probably more expensive.

But it's my hobby, dammit! I like caring for my snakes, working to make their enclosures look as good as possible and be spot on for humidity and temperature gradients. I am commited to that!

Tub people, please give some consideration to those snake keepers who want to keep their snakes in glass or display enclosures. We're people too!
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i'm with cass on this, even though i do tubs/racks. that is my choice and what i prefer. tanks are just as good, they just require more work and checking. you can decorate all you want, any way you want. it is just more to clean that's all.
i'm too lazy for all that cleaning, so tubs works for me.
if you like tank setups and the added maintenance doesn't bother you, then tank away, this is america!:soapbx:



vaughn

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Originally Posted by cassandra

I will. I'm just tired of the general consensus of what seems to be the majority people of this messageboard that tubs are better, hands down. I find it very frustrating seeing it said over and over again; one method or the other is not the answer for everyone.

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The same thing can be said about the other questions we see asked over and over again with the same answers over and over again. It really is no different than any other subject brought up. So, tired of it or not, we have to be patient and just get used to hearing the same things over and over again. Or, choose not to read/paticipate in a thread b/c we are not wanting to go over "that subject again" instead of getting upset about these subjects coming up again. There is always going to be someone who asks again the same question that has been asked a million times.

Bottom line, there is NOT ONE right way to go about taking care of any animal properly. As long as you achieve your temps, hide needs, feeding needs, etc and you get the same results as some body else doing it another way, than there is nothing wrong with doing things the way you choose to do them, the most important thing is to be sure the animals needs are met, after that, anything thing else extra, such as how its environment looks to you is gravy! There is nothing wrong with making the enviroment a display item for the human eyes who appreciate this..as long as the animals needs are met without taking from the animal in any way. The key is to know, which animals tolerate being "on display" better than others and switching those whose caging is for display to more utility type when the need arises.

With this being said, I would like to remind everyone, we are always going to see the same questions come up, resulting in the same answers and/or arguements attached to them, please try to be tolerant of this, it happens. I have seen the same wave of questions since this sites beginning...I have had to become more tolerant, it is the only way to be in an enviroment such as this that caters to the educational needs of one who seeks it.

*cracking whip* Now, everyone get along!

I vote for both. Keep the peace everybody no hissing and striking lol. Everybody has their own preference. :peace:

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Originally Posted by cassandra

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The tub people are oppressing the tank people yet again. Yes, it takes more time to clean and maintain. Yes, it takes more vigiliance over the husbandry. And yes, it's probably more expensive.

But it's my hobby, dammit! I like caring for my snakes, working to make their enclosures look as good as possible and be spot on for humidity and temperature gradients. I am commited to that!

Tub people, please give some consideration to those snake keepers who want to keep their snakes in glass or display enclosures. We're people too!
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Cass, my apologies if my post was the catalyst of your post.

I was responding to this statement:

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well if your going to have a pet you should let it live happily not boringly. A simple set up wouldnt do, adding natural fake plants will make the snake hapy. And come out of its hides more, and show more activity and interest in things then a snake only kept in a simple enclosure.

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I often refer people to your link on setting up a glass enclosure. It works for you, and you and Cleo enjoy it - that's all that really matters at the end of the day!

I did say that for ME, a tank set-up was not ideal. I don't believe I said that people should change to tubs, more offering a counter thought on Sapphire's statement.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

My snakes also don't think about escaping and they are in tub set-ups. I use a simple set-up, because my animals feed more consistently in them than they ever did in a naturalistic tank set-up. To me, that's the sign of a happy snake. They really DON'T care how you decorate, as long as you provide them with an enclosure that isn't too big, that offers warmth, security and food.

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Sorry Rabernet. I was talking about Tank enclosures. Thats what my snakes are in. And Im sure your snakes feel secure in a tub because they like tighter areas. But with large tanks or a glass small 10gal tank its better to have fake plants. Sorry to all those who use TUBs for their snakes I've heard Bp's love them because they feel safe in them. But what I should've said was simple enclosure for a tank is just not good enough. Because two hides, 1 water dish and open on all sides makes a snake scared and problems will occur.

hey everyone sorry i made this post and everyone argued lol but it interests me but i guess both are opinionated decisions thanks guyz! :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

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Originally Posted by adi

hey everyone sorry i made this post and everyone argued lol but it interests me but i guess both are opinionated decisions thanks guyz! :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot: :carrot:

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We're not arguing - just passionately discussing our hobby and/or part-time and/or full-time jobs. =)