66% Explanation Needed Please!

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Originally Posted by Kilo

Thanks for dropping the knowledge bomb Evan... you are always a big help!

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Thanks, I try! :D

-Evan

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

pastel x pastel = 25% normal, 50% pastel, 25% super :D

-Evan

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Sorry mistyped that was in a hurry

Here this is a good visual sight to show you how every thing will turn out
http://www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html

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Originally Posted by Evan Jamison

If your going with poss. hets, females are the only thing worth having. When breeding a homo or het male with a group of poss. het females, you know the gene is in the mix somewhere. Here's the breakdown of the percent chance that each egg has to hatch out as a visual.

50% x 50%, each egg has a 6.25% chance of hatching a visual (same odds as producing a double recessive trait with double hets, 1/16)
50% x 66% = 8.3%chance
66% x 66% = 11%
het x 50% = 12.5%
het x 66% = 16.7%
het x het = 25%
homo x 50% = 25%
homo x het = 50%

There have been many-a-happy dances done when poss. het girls prove out :carrot:. Poss het males are as good as normals, unless you're dealing with high end stuff (i.e. Lav. albino) where even het males still cost a bunch and you're on a budget. Trying to prove out poss het males without poss het females (or het/homo femalesfor that matter) will be years of work with a possibilty to not producing any visuals ever. Having a 100% het male ensures that somewhere down the road, you will produce a visual.

Alright, that's enough outta me.

-Evan

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A god among men...Nice! :salute:

does super mean it carries two copies of the dominate gene and it would be guarenteed to pass the gene on? Also, do supers look any different than a "normal" with the trait.

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Originally Posted by piranhaking

does super mean it carries two copies of the dominate gene and it would be guarenteed to pass the gene on? Also, do supers look any different than a "normal" with the trait.

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Generally speaking, yes..."Super" means it carries both copies of a dominate gene. In the case of most ball python morphs a "super" will look significantly different from its single-gene counterpart. A super-pastel is far more faded, with higher degrees of blushing and crazy pastel colors...for instance. A more radical example would be the "super" form of yellow-bellies, which is an ivory colored snake...or two lessers make the pure white leusistic.

In some cases, an animal can carry both genes but not show a visible difference from the original morph. If this is the case, then the benefit of having the "super" would be that ALL of its offspring would demonstrate the visible morph. I can't think of any such examples in the BP world. Spiders are the only dominant morph I can think of that does not have a visable super-form...and no one that I know of has proven even a non-visible super-spider.

I have 100%het pied and will breed him too his offspring girl's and I just can't wait to have fun with this project. One of our other member's also went this route and produced 1.7 possible het pied's she must be on cloud nine cause she will definitely produce a pied or two in a couple of year's. When you think about it it's probably the most fullfiilling way to do it not to mention the economic's.

Oh wow I just now thought of that Emilio! I could just purchase a normal female to breed with my 100% het albino and then breed the het back to the female offspring to produce my morph! Actually I could just purchase a 100% het albino female and a normal female along with a 100% het pied male then do it with the het pied like you are! Brilliant!

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Originally Posted by Kilo

Oh wow I just now thought of that Emilio! I could just purchase a normal female to breed with my 100% het albino and then breed the het back to the female offspring to produce my morph!

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Be careful, though. Remember, you are dealing in the world of POSSABILITIES only. If you breed a 100% het to a normal...than the offspring have a 50% possibility to carry the gene...they could all turn out to be normal.

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Originally Posted by Kilo

Actually I could just purchase a 100% het albino female and a normal female along with a 100% het pied male then do it with the het pied like you are! Brilliant!

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Best chance would be the 100% het pair....that is what I am hoping to save up for real soon!!

-BT:cool:

100% het x normal = 50% poss. hets


het x 50% poss. het is not a bad way to go. i would try 3 or 4 girls instead of one.



vaughn