Pastel Prices

When people who are selling these animals don't operate like a business and compete on price alone as the only factor of them making a sale, undercutting is going to keep happening and prices will go lower and lower.

Its amazing to me that people are in this for such short-term return that they'd rather sell a pastel for $250 immediately as a hatchling, as opposed to raising it up to 300-400 grams and watch it fly out of your rack for $400........

In no way am I advocating a price decrease I don't think it should go down.But I'll tell you this even the biggest breeders in daytona were undercutting.

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

The pet stores that are selling those CH imports aren't paying $50 to $100 for them ... they are buying them for much cheaper ... and the distributers that supply the pet stores are buying them for even cheaper than that ... I can get CH males less than $8.00 each.

Prices will level off when the $$$$ dries up for the flippers.

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I realize that, which was why I placed the wholesale price at the retail level. If the wholesale price for pastels was less than that it would compete with the retailers and their cheap imports. So either the pet stores will have to take less of a profit or the African exporters will charge less in order to compete with the Pastels. Then of course the Pastels would probably drop as well.

Gotta love a place where you can talk herps and economics...when prices start to drop don't you think its viable that the people looking for a quick buck will move onto some other co-dom trait to completely oversupply? And if this does happen hopefully the deminishing supply will bring prices back to more present scenerario? Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I realize that, which was why I placed the wholesale price at the retail level. If the wholesale price for pastels was less than that it would compete with the retailers and their cheap imports. So either the pet stores will have to take less of a profit or the African exporters will charge less in order to compete with the Pastels. Then of course the Pastels would probably drop as well.

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Not really sure what you're trying to say, but the wholesale price for pastels is already below $100 ... and it will be lower next year.

-adam

Which co-dom will be next as far as this drastic price drop, or will there be one.

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Originally Posted by greenmonkey51

Which co-dom will be next as far as this drastic price drop, or will there be one.

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Drastic is a relative term ... I paid $6500 for a lemon pastel 7 years ago ... not bad IMHO ... I paid $5,000 for a het albino male over 10 years ago ... still not bad ... all prices are going to come down ... the good news is that the ball market is strong and there will always be money to be made breeding these amazing animals ... how much depends on your goals and what you put into it.

-adam

prices on alot of morphs are all over the place right now. imo, i think alot of people are buying morphs as pets now, that's good too. so they are shopping for the best deal because they aren't interested in breeding or making a "return". nothing wrong with that, just a different mindset from someone looking at "investment purchases". i.e. i would spend 5-10k on a good investment, not near that on a pet with no plans for a return.



vaughn

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Not really sure what you're trying to say, but the wholesale price for pastels is already below $100 ... and it will be lower next year.

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Wow... didn't realize that. I guess it will come down to how much it costs to produce a clutch and how much profit people are willing to accept per snake.

imo, when talking about wholesale prices, you are also talking wholesale quantity. to me wholesale prices are on 10-20 lot and above quantities.



vaughn