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Possible loss of colony

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  • 08-26-2006, 03:52 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Okay, new news.
    After talking to our own Wild Bill by phone, and thinking it over even more(heart-wrenching doesn't begin to describe it), Hepburn's euthansia is on hold. I called the university vet, who said they were doing a stain that would be more definative. If the stain says "maybe" then we will treat for mouth rot, and then recheck. It is still possible that she will be authanized, but... I am giving her every chance I can.
    Wild Bill let me know how easily pythons seem to bounce back from mouthrot, so I feel that with that factor taken away, I want to be more sure.
    The special stain blood test will be processed monday. So I should know more then.
    Thank you to Wild Bill and to everyone else that is rooting for me, I could REALLY use the good thoughts!
    Theresa
  • 08-26-2006, 03:55 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    Okay, new news.
    After talking to our own Wild Bill by phone, and thinking it over even more(heart-wrenching doesn't begin to describe it), Hepburn's euthansia is on hold. I called the university vet, who said they were doing a stain that would be more definative. If the stain says "maybe" then we will treat for mouth rot, and then recheck. It is still possible that she will be authanized, but... I am giving her every chance I can.
    Wild Bill let me know how easily pythons seem to bounce back from mouthrot, so I feel that with that factor taken away, I want to be more sure.
    The special stain blood test will be processed monday. So I should know more then.
    Thank you to Wild Bill and to everyone else that is rooting for me, I could REALLY use the good thoughts!
    Theresa

    Wow, Theresa - sorry to hear about that I can only imagine what this has put you through.

    Glad to hear that things are in a holding pattern though and of course we're all pulling for you and hoping for the best!
  • 08-26-2006, 04:22 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Wolfy, call Adam or anyone else on here with any good amount of experience and talk to them. It may be possible that your spider spins, but DO NOT mistake it for IBD. As previously stated, IBD kills pythons very quickly, so if your spider has been doing this for a few weeks, chances are it's fine. You then get into the spinning issue, which most spiders can grow out of.

    Don't euthanize that snake......
  • 08-26-2006, 04:28 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    elevatethis,
    As I have stated before.. Hepburn IS a spinner. Hepburn MAY have IBD. Those are two seperate things. Right now I am waiting until the results from the stain are back. I am basing the diagnosis on BLOODWORK, not on neurological symptoms.
    (I'm not angry at all, I just want to be sure that this is clear)
    This python will NOT be put down due to spinning. She will be put down for IBD. As diagnosised by BLOODWORK and BLOOD TESTS.
    I will of course continue to update, as I get more information. She has to stay at the hospital over the weekend, as they don't do discharges on the weekend. At any rate, I should know something more on monday.
    Theresa
  • 08-26-2006, 05:23 PM
    hoo-t
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Theresa,
    I hoping and praying for you that the results show that she does NOT have IBD, and that she is healthy soon.

    Best of luck!
    Steve
  • 08-27-2006, 12:17 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Theresa,
    We are sending all of our prayers to you for some positive results. Let us know how it turns out, and hopefully, that stomatitis can be treated and Hepburn returned to a healthy state.

    Good Luck,
  • 08-27-2006, 12:28 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
    elevatethis,
    As I have stated before.. Hepburn IS a spinner. Hepburn MAY have IBD. Those are two seperate things. Right now I am waiting until the results from the stain are back. I am basing the diagnosis on BLOODWORK, not on neurological symptoms.
    (I'm not angry at all, I just want to be sure that this is clear)
    This python will NOT be put down due to spinning. She will be put down for IBD. As diagnosised by BLOODWORK and BLOOD TESTS.
    I will of course continue to update, as I get more information. She has to stay at the hospital over the weekend, as they don't do discharges on the weekend. At any rate, I should know something more on monday.
    Theresa

    I'm soooooo sorry to hear of Hepburns illnesses! :hug:

    Maybe it's best that she stay @ the vet's over the wkend, anyway. Less likelihood of contamination continuing? starting?

    Hopes and prayers are with you!!! And POSITIVE VIBES that it's NOT the yucky IBD.


    RuLyn
  • 08-27-2006, 12:54 AM
    Kara
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Hang tight man...IBD does tend to whoop @$$ on pythons, esp compared to boas, so I'd bet dollars to doughnuts you'd be seeing it in your other BP's already if that's truly what it was.

    Possible inclusion bodies can mean more than IBD, as has been discovered lately.


    I've seen pythons bounce back from some pretty effed-up doodee, so don't lose heart. Keep in mind that "hurry-up-and-wait" is the name of the game in cases like this.

    Chin up, hang in there!!!!

    K~
  • 08-27-2006, 12:58 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    I'm very sorry to hear of your troubles.. IBD is one of the worst things to have to worry about, but as was said before IBD usually will take out pythons very quickly, not like boas.

    I sincerely hope your little Hepburn will bounce back for you.
  • 08-27-2006, 08:42 AM
    Ginevive
    Re: Possible loss of colony
    Oh god; I am so sorry to hear about all this. I think it is good that you're trying to work on the little gal and give her a chance. Is she a new snake; could she have had the mouthrot before you had her? from what I read, mouthrot is very pervasive when not treated right; maybe she had it at the breeders' and it wasn't taken care of, and it just got worse?
    At any rate, I sincerely wish you the best in all this.
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