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Originally Posted by daniel1983

....its all just part of my game.....thats how I roll :devilish:

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Good stuff!! :partyon:

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Like I've said in other posts the emotional relationship with a snake is one way...we love them...they think we're gonna eat them, its that simple.


if i thought someone was going to eat me im sorry i would`nt sit on there knee pushing my head against thier hand I WOULD BITE THEM sorry personal views and all that

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The snake initially, like babies, probably thought you were going to eat it. depending on what experience it got with humans before you got it- it is now 'docile' meaning it does not recognize humans as food, persay, nor as a threat- just something to tolerate and warm up against. snakes are not dogs. my sweetie-pie ben, as 'gentle' and 'cuddly' as he is while holding is somewhat of a drama queen to get out. so is cybil they both LOVE to rattle their tails and even hiss. neither bites. jadis just curls up and lets you pick her up and crowley even arches his back like a cat if you run your finger down it! in point- those may seem like whatever human emotion you want, but they are just individual responses to a creature that lifts them from their house and pets and gushes over them. we dont smell like food, no need to eat us. we don't attack so no need to attack back. you're like a warm rock or tree they crawl over.

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Originally Posted by ptunny

as you say they are beautifull and lovey to hold but surely such as adders all go to the same place every year by the hundreds to hibernate together ( i think maybe wrong ?)

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Some things no matter how complex and amazing may seem to us humans are just a simple act of instinct to animals. Our problem is that we try to rationalize such simple things like instincts b/c we naturally want a deeper signficance.

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if i thought someone was going to eat me im sorry i would`nt sit on there knee pushing my head against thier hand I WOULD BITE THEM sorry personal views and all that

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Personal views are welcome here as long as you don't mind when I disagree;)

I explain them rubbing against your hands as them simply trying to find a source security on the open space that is your lap. If you're taking this as a sign of affection then you're implying that the snake "knows" and "recognizes" you.

If you unexpectedly startled a cat or a dog although scared they would pretty much immediately recognize you and know no longer to be afraid. Startle your snake and she'll either ball up until your gone or slither away as fast as she possibly can, no recognition what so ever. Of course if you keep on handling her while she's trying to slither away she will eventually "tolerate" it and calm down so to speak.

To each his own and rightly so, but these are my thoughts on the subject and although i would love for it to be the way you're explaining it to me I haven't heard anything yet in any of these debates that i've had over the subject that has made me feel that way.

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Personal views are welcome here as long as you don't mind when I disagree;)



i`m under the belief that we all have our own views on things, unless we are brainwashed or convinced otherwiseby whatever means, sometimes even the best of us tend to believe things if we`re told them enough times :) . and as for Personal views and you disagreeing as long as you can handle others who dis agree with you :frustrate

With a girlfriend like mine if i didn't learn to "agree to disagree" Ida shot myself by now lol

know just wot you mean got one myself and three kids i should have shot her when we met i would have been out on parole by now (it`s 12 years now) as you say "you learn to agree to disagree" lol

Anyone who believes in houseing BPs together; how do you rationalize an accidental breeding of a too-young female if her cagemate is male? And how do you justify having two males together when it is knows that they can become combatitive in the breeding season? And how about, let's say one of your snakes develops an RI or other ailment; how do you say it is good to house them together so the other one cannot escape the germs from the other?
There is no good argument for housing BPs thgether, unless it is temporarily doing so for breeding of two appropriately aged snakes.

no one has actually said that they agree or think its right to house bp`s together all i asked was peoples personal views on the subject but it really seems to have opened up a bit of a raw nerv ha-ha . I must admit that my snakes are all housed seperatly but i do handle them quite frequently :rolleyes: but there ya go

i think that if we really look at things objectivly we begin to see that it is not out snakes that have no feelings it`s just our american freinds that have no feelings or emotions

I personally believe that snakes have feelings. I can't believe that anything that is alive and has a functioning brain doesn't have them. What they do not have are human feelings and reactions to stimuli. It always seems we humans think so darn much of ourselves that only our feelings are valid so we superimpose them on other creatures. Bit silly really...humans have human feelings...snakes have snake feelings....both are alien to the other of course just as it was meant to be.