2 Snakes same cage

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Originally Posted by Slithers

since most of you have no clue of what goes on in the wild, ball pythons are regularly found huddled together in the same hide. when exporters and poachers catch the ball pythons they find them in large or small groups of numerous snakes...regularly. THIS is what makes the business of exporting so lucrative, easy to catch in large numbers, easy to sell in large numbers as well.

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I would like to know where you get your information...

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Originally Posted by mr~python

you know this subject was brought up on another forum except for it was a monitor forum where everybody that had snakes kept them in huge display enclosures with multiple snakes per cage. i was trying to explain that they were not supposed to keep them together and one of them brought up an interesting point. has anyone ever seen that movie or seen the link on the internet? i think it was ball pythons in the wild? well they brought up how a large female was found with two smaller males in a burrow but she had already laid her eggs. does anyone know why 3 snakes would be in the same burrow like that if the female had already laid her eggs?

im not saying by any meens to house them together, im just interested in why they were together like that.

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I think the point is in the wild if one snake is "stressing" another it can leave and go somewhere else. Not possible in captivity.

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

I think the point is in the wild if one snake is "stressing" another it can leave and go somewhere else. Not possible in captivity.

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Already said, thats what I get for not reading it all first. :fishslap:

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Originally Posted by Slithers

but in regards to keeping snakes in captivity, it is much more beneficial to the snake overall health to keep it in its own separate cage because of the many reasons already listed.

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Completely agree.

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Originally Posted by Slithers

since most of you have no clue of what goes on in the wild, ball pythons are regularly found huddled together in the same hide. when exporters and poachers catch the ball pythons they find them in large or small groups of numerous snakes...regularly. THIS is what makes the business of exporting so lucrative, easy to catch in large numbers, easy to sell in large numbers as well.

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Be very careful making these kinds of statements on a message board, especially this one. We are all very weary of where people get their info/experience/etc. You could be a teenager with an internet connection or a expert who's done many studies on ball pythons in the wild and we'd never know the difference.

FYI...most of the ball pythons you claim that are "caught in large numbers" are actually obtained by collecting relatively fewer gravid females from the wild and hatching out her eggs en masse on a ball python "farm." This is what we refer to as CH or Captive Hatched.

Ball pythons may be found in close proximity to one another in the wild, but in no way does that make them a communal species, which, correct me if I'm wrong, your post seems to hint at.

I'm just confused because those two statements you made seem to contradict one another.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

I'm just confused because those two statements you made seem to contradict one another.

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No, no...I really like pie. No contradiction there...

*:partyon: parties on with the non-Daytona attendees :banana:*

Where is the contradiction.... or maybe I have not had enough coffee :)

In one breath you said that snakes benefit from being solitary in captivity. The next thing you said about snakes in the wild mentioned how you think that they are found together very often. Maybe you could clarify...

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Originally Posted by cassandra

No, no...I really like pie. No contradiction there...

*:partyon: parties on with the non-Daytona attendees :banana:*

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I'm really starting to want pie..........here I am cleaning Vaughn's tubs while he lives it up at the beach with the ball python world's finest! :irkd:

jp I hope y'all are having fun.....

They are collected from the wild in groups, but for reasons already stated, they are better kept single in captivity.... makes sense to me. Oh well... off to start a pot of coffee :)

How do you know they are collected from the wild in groups?