Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
Scales, just a heads up, making statements like that on a public forum is really bad marketing to potential customers looking to make an investment with you...
Why? I really don't understand what's wrong with what he said...It all seems like common sense to me...
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
Well from what I can gather he didn't state that before the sale (MKR), That they were a sub-par animal.
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
What is upsetting to people is that 6 months ago people bought the same snakes from the same breeder for 4 to 8 times the current price. Were not talking an increase in supply or drop in production price that causes a drop in value. the drop in the value was cause simply due to the fact that he felt that the current market was limited and needed a boost. So you flood the market and cause other people to do the same.
By lowering the price he is selling 40 to 50 animals a year at $800.00 = $40,000.00 insteed of selling 1 or 3 maybe at 10 to 15,000.00. The number of snakes sold balances out the price.
Its poor marketing. Change price after a set time period or when the demand for the animals is high enough that the price drop want effect the market. Selling a snake for 15,000.00 and the next week selling it for 800.00. What do you do to the people making payments on a 15,000.00 snake refund all but 800.00 of it. That I doubt
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill
Well from what I can gather he didn't state that before the sale (MKR), That they were a sub-par animal.
Buyers should have gotten pics before buying...
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
I can imagine thats a real sucker punch but isnt that the way of capitalism sometimes? High price morphs seem to me to be like investing in highly volatile shares - you may get rich but you could equally get badly burned.
Beyond this specific spat - can the mega bucks some morphs fetch really be sustained long term? The market for 5 digit priced snakes has got to be restricted to only the very wealthiest hobbiests or to professional breeders. As the rare morph alleles diffuse out through the captive gene pool the number of morphs hatching will increase dramatically and the price cannot remain anywhere close.
For people like me who will only ever keep a small number of balls it looks like the rpice of some of those beauties may eventually fall within my pocket - kinda democratising the ball python community!
Please dont take this as an attack on anyone or anything - just an outside novice POV.
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by sho220
Buyers should have gotten pics before buying...
He could have also said they were B-grade or lesser grade animals in his ads.
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill
He could have also said they were B-grade or lesser grade animals in his ads.
You're absolutely right, but it ultimately comes down to "buyer beware"...would you buy a used car without seeing it? Even if the seller tells you how nice it looks?
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by sho220
You're absolutely right, but it ultimately comes down to "buyer beware"...would you buy a used car without seeing it? Even if the seller tells you how nice it looks?
A used car salesman would love to do that. Funny how Joe at MKR actually IS a used car salesman!
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by elevatethis
A used car salesman would love to do that. Funny how Joe at MKR actually IS a used car salesman!
Maybe MKR was trying to unload these before the end of the month so they didn't have to pay taxes on them?
Re: MKR Mojaves Price Drop (poll)
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Originally Posted by ssscales
Will it really make a difference to anyone if you paid $1000 out of pocket more for a morph, just because? How exactly will that support your goal when it comes time for you to sell that morph in 1-2-3yrs?
Let me guess, "because it helps hold prices for me when I have babies to sell", right? Tell that to everyone who bought high dollar morphs last year or even six months ago...
I'd like to see you go back and tell certain breeders, and explain to them that since you paid them $1000 over what others were asking because you supported our goals last year! That today they should in turn buy back your snakes for at least $1000 over what others are advertising...what do you think?
Fyi...
Prices will drop, prices will continue to drop because of supply & demand or just greed or out of necessity! Some prices will drop faster and harder than others! The only decisions you need to make and make them before spending a penny, is what are your expectations as a whole and what can you live with?
For those who are knee deep in credit card debts or mortgaged their homes betting on a one clutch return, OUCH! Jimmy and MKR have some advise for you!
For those who planned and can hold out a bit longer and are thinking long term Vs One clutch returns, good for you!! You'll be just fine, go out have a nice weekend at Daytona and look for some cool morphs at some great prices!!
I agree with what you have said 100%, that basically sums up the nature of the ball python business.
