I can't believe how much was getting missed

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Originally Posted by JenHarrison

They pee a lot more than people think. :)

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Have a snake pee on you a couple of times - you'll know how much liquid urine they evacuate when they go. =P

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Originally Posted by jotay

I have a quick question concerning when you guys switched to newspaper and noticing how much more liquid there was then when using other things.
When paper/newspaper gets wet the wet spot expands and covers a large area. Kinda like ever drop a small drop of water on newspaer and it absorbs it and the small drop/wet spot is now about the size of the bottom of a coffee cup?
Not saying that newspaper is not a good clean thing to keep your bp on because it is. Just saying do you think the absorption/expension of the paper just makes it look like a lot of liquid.

I was just wondering.

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If the ball python expells 300 CC's of Urine, it's still 300 CC's if it's on aspen or it's on paper ... I think the point isn't that paper makes it look like it's more, it's that mulches (like aspen and cypress) hide how much there really is ... which is an important point for anyone that spot cleans.

Basically, the thing with newspaper is that the box/tank/tub is cleaned 100% every single time it get's dirty ... you just can't miss ANYTHING ... with mulches or other "beddings", unless they are being replaced completely and the enclosure cleaned each time it is soiled, there is always going to be "something" left behind ... even if it's a little urine that sneaks down to the bottom of the enclosure and leaves an ammonia residue ... the cage won't be "perfectly" clean every time it's soiled.

There could probably be a debate 300 posts long about clean vs. clean enough and in the end each keeper has got to do what works best for them and their snake(s) ... for me and mine(s), it's paper. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

There could probably be a debate 300 posts long about clean vs. clean enough and in the end each keeper has got to do what works best for them and their snake(s) ... for me and mine(s), it's paper. ;)

-adam

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Your mines have paper substrate too? What kind? Gold? Land? :O

I started with aspen, that was what my dad used touse when we had out Boa Alice. Last night I bought a newspaper type bedding because it was good for heat aborbsion and borrowing which my snakes like to do from time to time. I think i might just try to regular newspaper though since everyone is saying how nice it is. Though I do clean the tank's once a week and empty everything and wash it out ( and it is a hassle with a 45 gallon tank). But ty for this post it gave me some more info and what seems like an easier and less messy way to clean up.

i LOVE newspaper!!! :grouphug:

I love a regular sized number 2 font.

I love fried chicken!

-adam

and tater salad! (why is Ron White's voice echoing in my head! LOL)

I love pie what about you Wysocki

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

That's EXACTLY the reason that made me switch from aspen/mulch to paper ... with paper, when it's clean, it's clean ... with many other bedding, it's not "clean" unless you dump EVERYTHING out. ROCK ON! :sweeet:

-adam

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Ditto on that!