Best sized cage for a hatchling?

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

They dont find it nessecary because they are in a nice, dark, secure rack.

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I strongly disagree.

-adam

Maybe it just varies snake to snake. I mean, yea, My yearlings and hatchlings have hides, but sometimes wont use it. And my adults i guess dont find the need for it. They just push it up in front, and stay on the back wall. And its the same hide thats been working (which they used) when they were in a glass Viv.

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

Maybe it just varies snake to snake. I mean, yea, My yearlings and hatchlings have hides, but sometimes wont use it. And my adults i guess dont find the need for it. They just push it up in front, and stay on the back wall. And its the same hide thats been working (which they used) when they were in a glass Viv.

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All of my adults (150+) use their hides. Maybe you have a husbandry issue?

-adam

I dont have husbandry issues. And there is ALOT of people who's snakes dont use hides in racks.

And how would i have husbandry issues? My adult rack (with snakes who dont use hides) is always @ 58-60% humidity, 79-81 on the cool side, and 89-92 on the warm side. I change water out daily, they are on news paper(the kept pushing aspen to the front in a big mound, because the tub floor is slick)
And they ALL, with the exception of my W/C male, eat, once a week on appropriete (sp) size prey. And they are all on F/T, just so you know.

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I dont have husbandry issues. And there is ALOT of people who's snakes dont use hides in racks.

And how would i have husbandry issues? My adult rack (with snakes who dont use hides) is always @ 58-60% humidity, 79-81 on the cool side, and 89-92 on the warm side. I change water out daily, they are on news paper(the kept pushing aspen to the front in a big mound, because the tub floor is slick)
And they ALL, with the exception of my W/C male, eat, once a week on appropriete (sp) size prey. And they are all on F/T, just so you know.

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Look kid, I do this for a living ... if you don't care what I have to say, that's fine ... just so you know. ;)

-adam

I actualy always try to listen, but what your trying to get at is, that theres some thing wrong with my snakes, for not using a hide box.

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I actualy always try to listen, but what your trying to get at is, that theres some thing wrong with my snakes, for not using a hide box.

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I was trying to be helpful ... not "get at" anything ... but thanks for the assumption. :sweeet:

Like I said ... if you don't like what I have to say, ignore me ... doesn't matter to me one bit. :D

-adam

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Originally Posted by pslsnakes

I DONT use hides, and neither do alot of people running large number of snakes and racks. Ive put hides in my racks, but they will push it to the front and leave it alone. They dont find it nessecary because they are in a nice, dark, secure rack.

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I use hides of all different shapes and sizes and one thing they all have in common is that the snakes can cram themselves into them should they choose to do so. Sometimes they won't be "in" the hide, but crammed between the side of it and the wall of the tub.

What do these observations mean to me? The dark secure rack doesn't mean as much as the feeling of security they get from being able to "feel" something all around them, explaining why they cram themselves into such tight spaces.

One thing I notice among the people who don't use hides is that I can't remember one that wasn't using some kind of loose substrate, aspen, sanichips, whatever. And there was enough of it that the snake could burrow down into it. Maybe a loose substrate they can sink down into makes up for the lack of security without a hide.

Just some speculation and observations.....thats still OK in these forums, right?

Wow, no hides? My snakes are in their hides during the full duration of the day, coming out at night and hiding again before daylight. If I took away their hides, I think they would be lost :)