Re: Agh internal parasites
Ok it's getting less confusing now. lol
I work at petsmart with a state line tack in it so getting the strongid won't be an issue.. so any old tube (or bottle if I can get it) of wormer that says strongid on it is the right stuff? (I have seen strongid C, but I didn't remember strongid T)
I give the strongid to all the snakes big and small, correct?
And the praziquantel - can I mix this with the strongid for the big snakes so I only have to shove one thing down their throat?
So can droncit tablets replace the injection? If I can avoid injecting all of the snakes that would be nice, since they tend to hate me whenever one needs a shot.
With the small snakes only getting strongid, will that be adequate protection for them, and are there any other common parasites that could be missed with this treatment?
I am also not sure what kind of syringes to get. I imagine I'd want small ones in order to get them down the throat of the babies, but big ones to have enough capacity to hold what's needed for the bigger snakes. Can I order some online somewhere?
Again.. thank you for your help. :)
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Ok Becky I want to make sure I got the right stuff.
I'm sure the praziquantel is right.. it's a small bottle of three tablets made for cats. Each tablet is 23mg of praziquantel. Cost $24.. I hope I won't need a lot of bottles of it.
I didn't see anything named 'strongid T' but what I got says this on it:
Farnam brand Liqui-Care P
Pyrantel Pamoate
Liquid Dewormer
Equine Anthelmintic Suspension
50mg of pyrantel base as pyrantel pamoate per mL
Is this the right stuff?
Re: Agh internal parasites
Those should both work fine and will be easy to dose out. Once you get all of the snakes' weights, just post them or PM them to me and I can help you out with calculating each dosage for them.
Glad you found everything and we'll be sure to get all of this sorted out and everyone on the road to recovery. :)
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Ok.. so I will not need the injections then, correct?
I just need to know where I can get some good syringes. My biggest snake is around 21lbs.. what capacity syringe do you think I'd need?
Another question.. (sorry lol) would it be a bad idea to just treat every new snake I get with these two things instead of getting a fecal done, or are there other parasites that these things won't nuke? I'm just thinking this is going to be cheaper per snake than the $35 fecal, and worming doesn't hurt the snake.. what do you think?
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Preventative deworming is a perfect first step to any new acquisition. It will help preserve your current groups' health.
No, no injections, no needles. I would go for some Insulin syringes(found at CVS or any drug store-without needles), some 3mL, some 6mL, and maybe some 10mL. I doubt you'll need more than that. You can get some curved tips at the vet or at feed stores(I believe...).
Also, when you crush up the Praziquantel tablets, measure the amount of water you mix it in and then we can figure out how much liquid the animal gets.
Hope that helps some!
Re: Agh internal parasites
best drugs for parasites are
Panacur and Flagyl
Panacur 1m/kg of snake standart
Flagyl 10-20 mg/kg (depnds of the brand name)
you can give them oraly.
ask alexhuereptiles.com is doctor.
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Neither of those medications will get rid of tapeworms, which is why I suggested Praziquantel. Flagyl gets rid of Giardia sp. and if your snake has Giardia, have fun with a nice, LONG treatment. Protozoans are very hard to get rid of and you have to be very meticulous about cleaning and quarantine. Not to mention, if your snake has Giardia, then it is either Wildcaught or you need to look at your husbandry. It usually comes from drinking dirty water infested with the parasite.
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Ok awesome, Becky. I am going out of town for the weekend, but soon as I get back I'm weighing all of them.
Are there other common parasites that praziquantel/strongid will not get? I'm just trying to make a plan for future aquisitions.. fecal test, or just routine preventative deworming.
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That combo won't get rid of protozoans like Coccidia or Giardia. Those take metronidazole(Flagyl) or sulfadimethoxine(Albon) and treatment usually takes 3 weeks or more. I had to treat one rat for 3-4 weeks with Albon until it finally went away.
Both of those would be a good preventative to keep on hand if you get any new additions, regardless of where they come from, good breeder or not.
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Ok. Do snakes show any signs when they have protozoans? ..and are they fairly common parasites or no?