Possible theft/scam related to snake shipping

Aww nice of you to say Wolfy but just doing what The Mod Squad's supposed to do LOL I was more concerned I'd accidentally delete the whole deal and be running Matt for a quick tech fix-up!


I haven't followed this whole deal as much as I'd like to. Fauna BOI loads awfully slow for us dialup folks but in the end doesn't it all come down to doing your research as a buyer online, taking the time upfront to get to known your preferred breeder and just plain common sense. Maybe it's just me being me but I have a problem handing over our hard earned money to just anybody that tosses up an ad online. I'm not saying this is the case here, the buyer may well have done all he could but when it comes to purchases or trades, I guess I am just way too cautious maybe.

By the time we purchased Malachi, who in the greater scheme of things is not even an expensive snake, we knew Adam and his reputation well enough that it just never crossed our minds that anything would go wrong. If it did, we knew Adam would make it right - there was just no question of that. Heck if the snake wasn't in the box I'm sure Adam would have been freaking over the missing snake's safety as much as making Mike and I happy. Whether we spend a few hundred bucks or a few thousand, we'll always go with a breeder who cares that much about the snakes he puts in those shipping boxes.

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

I haven't followed this whole deal as much as I'd like to. Fauna BOI loads awfully slow for us dialup folks but in the end doesn't it all come down to doing your research as a buyer online, taking the time upfront to get to known your preferred breeder and just plain common sense. Maybe it's just me being me but I have a problem handing over our hard earned money to just anybody that tosses up an ad online. I'm not saying this is the case here, the buyer may well have done all he could but when it comes to purchases or trades, I guess I am just way too cautious maybe.

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The problem here, is that when that first guy in Kansas arranged a trade of a cinny for a super-pastel....the breeder in question HAD a good reputation. There wasn't any indication at that point that something this bad would happen. That's the thing that makes this particular case so interesting is that someone decided their reputation was worth $7500. Pathetic.

I also got a pair of het albinos from our very own Adam, and they are perfect, and he held my hand through all my agonizing wait as they were in transit, and has heard probaly far far more details of what they have done since, to be interested in hearing anything more ... ever. Unless they breed and hatch a purple snake out, I think he has heard enough of their details, but never complained and continues to give advice when asked, and patiently guides some of us newer people through things.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

and has heard probaly far far more details of what they have done since, to be interested in hearing anything more ... ever.

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No way!! ... I always love hearing about what's going on with my "kids" once I send them out into the world. ;)

When you produce albinos from that pair, I'd expect and "Adam" in the clutch. :P

-adam

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

I also got a pair of het albinos from our very own Adam, and they are perfect, and he held my hand through all my agonizing wait as they were in transit, and has heard probaly far far more details of what they have done since, to be interested in hearing anything more ... ever. Unless they breed and hatch a purple snake out, I think he has heard enough of their details, but never complained and continues to give advice when asked, and patiently guides some of us newer people through things.

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Hahahah! That is hilarious!

"Hey Adam, its me again..Sorry for all the voicemails. Just wanted to let you know the snake just pooped. It seems firm and looks healthy. I am going to take a picture for you in case......[PLEASE DEPOSIT 25 CENTS FOR THE NEXT 2 MINUTES]

Actually one of my others was named Adam, but in honor of Adam Savage from MYthbusters. He was totally hyper and seemed able to get stuck in the wierdest places, always falling off my lap etc. Stunningly accurate name for him.
I guess I will have to have a helpful nice intelligent snake to name Adam in honor of you.
LOL
w.

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Actually one of my others was named Adam, but in honor of Adam Savage from MYthbusters. He was totally hyper and seemed able to get stuck in the wierdest places, always falling off my lap etc. Stunningly accurate name for him.
I guess I will have to have a helpful nice intelligent snake to name Adam in honor of you.
LOL
w.

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LOL ... or the biggest "dork" in the clutch. :P

-adam

Whichever one regurges the most?

My opinion on the whole thread on fauna is as follows.Thier never was a snake in that box when it was sent out.A buddy of mine(VARNYARD Bobby Hill) posted on that thread last night.He reminded everyone that the box only weighed around a pound(i think that is close).When they weighed the box it only left maybe a couple ounces that should have been the snakes weight.Also when the reciever opened the box he opened one side only as they suspected something was wrong.I think we all should get our shovels ready because the stuff is getting deeper as it goes:bonk: .

i think what's saddest about this situation is that the 'trust' for many buyers will be hurt. people who don't 'know' the breeder and have to 'trust' that it'll show up...

from what i've read, the 'seller' had an excellent reputation... no one dreamed this would happen with him... i do however, find it odd that the dr who was over at the 'buyers' home didn't speak up until days later... why not say in the beginning... dr owen and i opened the box and... instead of mentioning it later on. does make me suspect about the entire situation to be honest.

very sad situation. but the reality is... buyer beware on the internet. you never know when you'll get ripped off.

i'm just glad i have a great breeder within driving distance from my home!

(ps and jo... i wondered what happened to the other thread. i was subscribed and it vanished - just found this one now LOL)