No more retics and burms in NY?

True that, and PETA is really good at getting celebrity endourcements....even though I had thought the general opinion of them was pretty negative due to media stories and whatnot, getting the hottest female singer to pose practically naked on posters for them would probably make a lot of people forget that. Hollywood has a knack for supporting weird stuff....People should definately do their homework before supporting places like that....I'll be sure to start doing that myself ;)!

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Sheree - PETA doesn't care AT ALL about animals. The thing is - they hate people! They want to put animals above humans.. and bring humans down.

An animal doesn't have rights - and shouldn't. Rights are for humans.. and responsibilites are also! An animal can not be expected to have responsibilities. It is the job of the human to take responsibility for the lives of their animals and to care for them the best that they can.

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That's actually kinda what I was trying to say, I guess I just didn't put it well and shouldn't have started off the Peta rant with a confusingly sarcastic sentence. PETA are asshats that doesn't don't really care about anybody. I don't necessarily believe they put animals above people though, because they don't really seem to know anything about animals or give a crap about their proper care. The "animal rights" thing is just semantics.

What I was going for really was just that if they actually cared about animals, they'd focus on education in exactly what you mentioned instead of all the BS they keep pulling.

Well if you think that stepping on an ant is murder, I think that's akin to putting animals above people. :)

Just a morbid thought....I bet they wouldn't object to cannibalism =P

They'd probably endorse it lol. Hey it gets rid of more of those nasty humans, why not?

Seriously though, they have physically attacked people (sending letters with razor blades in them to laboratory workers) and they support ELF which is classified as a domestic terrorist organization by the government.

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Well if you think that stepping on an ant is murder, I think that's akin to putting animals above people. :)

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Well, good point ;) Reminds me of that tissue commercial with the monk. "It kills germs? Oh noes!!"

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They'd probably endorse it lol. Hey it gets rid of more of those nasty humans, why not?

Seriously though, they have physically attacked people (sending letters with razor blades in them to laboratory workers) and they support ELF which is classified as a domestic terrorist organization by the government.

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Sorry I just had to point out, it's ALF not ELF :giggle: (Animal Liberation Front - or at least I think that's what you were refering to), and yes PETA does endorse them and seems to be trying to head in that direction. ALF fully encourages violence against property or people that goes against their doctrine. :no:

I meant ELF.. Earth liberation front. Both are bad.

Okay... I was staying away from this thread... because of the argumentative nature of the debate that could insue... and you all know me... I would never post anything on this site or any other that's a "hot topic"... but here goes...

I have, in my life, been involved with breeding dogs. It wasn't a huge operation, but I sold internationally, and it was "big enough". Now I'm getting into snakes with the same vigor.

As a professional breeder, I would have NO problem with licensing breeders and distributors that sell ANY animal to be used as a pet/breeder. Keep in mind, that I'm not saying anything about your right to KEEP a reptile/dog/cat/etc.. but in my world, there would be some sort of licensing that takes place in order to be able to SELL anything. That way, we stop the petcos of the world selling snakes without knowing anything about them and in turn get less of the problem of "I bought a burm, and now I don't know what to do with it" or "i bought an iggy..." or "I'm keeping four BP's in the same enclosure.

It's a "perfect world" suggestion/thought... and I'm sure it's not perfect, and couldn't be enforced... and initially it would be a pain for the private breeders.

It's just one of those "you need a license to drive a car, but any idiot can father/mother a child"

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I meant ELF.. Earth liberation front. Both are bad.

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Sorry there April! :oops: I figured you were on the animal track, but my mistake! :imslow: :D