Cannibalism in rats?

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Originally Posted by Snow Balls

That type of bin would work though right? I was planning on running by Home Depot after work anyways and grabbing a few cleaning supplies. I might as well go by petco and grab a bottle too. Putting substrate in would probably help with cleaning afterwards I assume?


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I'm not sure what bin you're referring to- I actually prefer the "Exo-Terra Faunarium" type of temp. holding cage*, but that clear plastic will likely crack if you try to put a hole in it for a water bottle. You'd have to go thru the lid (knock a couple "teeth" out) & be sure to buy one that isn't super-tall. I'm sure you can make other things (bins) "work" as long as they're well-ventilated. Rodents breathe a LOT more than snakes- their metabolism is "on steroids".

*I raise rodents, & use these type plastic cages when I clean their lab cages, but they're never in there long enough to need water bottles. Only about an hour. And the first thing they ALL do is guzzle water when they're returned home.

Water bottle, my suggestion- https://www.walmart.com/ip/Happy-Hom...4?athbdg=L1200 (Pet stores will have similar ones too.)
Note- the longer tube curves inward- the Lixit ones are short & straight up & down-not ideal for this application.

Yes, a little substrate will keep the floor cleaner. ;)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

I'm not sure what bin you're referring to- I actually prefer the "Exo-Terra Faunarium" type of temp. holding cage*, but that clear plastic will likely crack if you try to put a hole in it for a water bottle. You'd have to go thru the lid (knock a couple "teeth" out) & be sure to buy one that isn't super-tall. I'm sure you can make other things (bins) "work" as long as they're well-ventilated. Rodents breathe a LOT more than snakes- their metabolism is "on steroids".

*I raise rodents, & use these type plastic cages when I clean their lab cages, but they're never in there long enough to need water bottles. Only about an hour. And the first thing they ALL do is guzzle water when they're returned home.

Water bottle, my suggestion- https://www.walmart.com/ip/Happy-Hom...4?athbdg=L1200 (Pet stores will have similar ones too.)
Note- the longer tube curves inward- the Lixit ones are short & straight up & down-not ideal for this application.

Yes, a little substrate will keep the floor cleaner. ;)

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This is the bin I was referring to. Floor space is about 24x15
Along with this bottle on the outside https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e029a5f448.jpg
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That bin should work okay with lots of air holes added on top. The water bottle is a bit small & glass- I wouldn't buy less than 8 oz- for a group of rodents held that long- my bottles are plastic.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

That bin should work okay with lots of air holes added on top. The water bottle is a bit small & glass- I wouldn't buy less than 8 oz- for a group of rodents held that long- my bottles are plastic.

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I am going to buy a bigger one, I just took a screenshot of that one for reference. Petco also sells rodent bedding I assume?


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Originally Posted by Snow Balls

I am going to buy a bigger one, I just took a screenshot of that one for reference. Petco also sells rodent bedding I assume?


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:gj: Of course- all kinds of bedding. You just want something absorbent.

That should work fine but I would look for one with a locking lid. I know I got some at Target that lock on each side.

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Originally Posted by KMG

That should work fine but I would look for one with a locking lid. I know I got some at Target that lock on each side.

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They don’t have latches but they do lock and are pretty hard to open. I have a bigger one that I use to break down my cocoblox


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Originally Posted by Snow Balls

They don’t have latches but they do lock and are pretty hard to open. I have a bigger one that I use to break down my cocoblox


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That should work then. It's pretty hard for a rat, even a determined one, to do a "pull-up" & have the strength to push up on a cage-top- their front legs aren't that strong.
But it's best to have some kind of lock for peace of mind, or if the container lends itself (design-wise) to securing with large binder clips or some other way.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

That should work then. It's pretty hard for a rat, even a determined one, to do a "pull-up" & have the strength to push up on a cage-top- their front legs aren't that strong.
But it's best to have some kind of lock for peace of mind, or if the container lends itself (design-wise) to securing with large binder clips or some other way.

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Sometimes even I struggle to open the one I have, they’re meant for industrial storage so they’re very well made


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Originally Posted by Snow Balls

Sometimes even I struggle to open the one I have, they’re meant for industrial storage so they’re very well made


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Sounds pretty safe then, lol. Though a lock is still reassuring for that "one time" you stop fast in traffic & the unsecured container goes flying & voila! You have rats running around in your car & moving quickly into the dashboard...:D