The Vaping Epidemic

I meant liberty not privacy

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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453

The way I see it, I'm 40 years old. I am old enough to make my own choices. Let me vape...

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"Pick your poison" as they say. ;)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

"Pick your poison" as they say. ;)

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Hey, at least this one won't land me in jail or a coffin... Well, at least not right away... :rofl:

Well if it becomes illegal all I know is I am going to buy my stuff on the black market. A vape store I goto sells the flavors seperate so in 2 weeks I am going to go buy $100 worth of flavoring just in case.

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Originally Posted by sur3fir3

Well if it becomes illegal all I know is I am going to buy my stuff on the black market. A vape store I goto sells the flavors seperate so in 2 weeks I am going to go buy $100 worth of flavoring just in case.

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I've already found some loopholes too. I'll still be vaping. Ssssshhhhh.... Don't Tell Uncle Sam

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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453

I've already found some loopholes too. I'll still be vaping. Ssssshhhhh.... Don't Tell Uncle Sam

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I figured I smoked pot for years before it become legal. It doesn't bother me to be on the other side of the law. I just hope they dont do something stupid like make it a felony or something.

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Originally Posted by sur3fir3

I figured I smoked pot for years before it become legal. It doesn't bother me to be on the other side of the law. I just hope they dont do something stupid like make it a felony or something.

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I highly doubt it will even become illegal, I just don’t see it happening. Maybe banning the certain chemical and then adding extra warnings like they do with cigs and alcohol. I would much rather smoke a blunt than vape honestly lol I’ve felt great since I kicked all the tobacco and nicotine minus the occasional gutted swisher.


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This is a bit off topic but since we are talking about vaping-related deaths and regulations I just wanted to offer my perspective.

I wonder why "they" (the powers that be) do more to address the alcohol problem? As a hospice nurse I see Far More people die from alcohol-related liver disease than I ever would have imagined before I work where I do (and it's an awful death, too). My partner is a former alcoholic who has a damaged liver. I have lost 2 dear friends to liver failure due to alcoholism.

People joke about "Mommy needs wine" and can't seem to have a good time without drinking to "loosen up." I don't drink-- and I don't judge those who do, but it makes *them* feel awkward when I ask for soda instead, and there are social events where partner and I are not invited because there's drinking. It's not something people talk about-- the toll that alcohol use takes-- and how pervasive it is because it's acceptable, but it's something we should talk more about.

Anyway . . . I do see lung cancer/COPD patients too, but most of them are older.

I have only ever had a handful of drug-related deaths on our unit.

I have never had a patient yet die from marijuana. In fact many of my cancer patients find medical marijuana helpful. (Why it is illegal I have no idea, it seems the least harmful of all of them)

Most of my alcoholic liver patients are 30's to 50's, and from all walks of life, socio-economic, religious backgrounds. Way too young to be facing end of life, and totally preventable. :disbelief

On a given day on my 12-bed unit, I will have about 6 old people dying of natural causes (including Alzheimers, heart disease, etc), 2 COPD patients (smokers), 2-3 cancer patients, and 1-2 alcoholic liver patients.

Anyway, something to think about.

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Originally Posted by FollowTheSun

This is a bit off topic but since we are talking about vaping-related deaths and regulations I just wanted to offer my perspective.

I wonder why "they" (the powers that be) do more to address the alcohol problem? As a hospice nurse I see Far More people die from alcohol-related liver disease than I ever would have imagined before I work where I do (and it's an awful death, too). My partner is a former alcoholic who has a damaged liver. I have lost 2 dear friends to liver failure due to alcoholism.

People joke about "Mommy needs wine" and can't seem to have a good time without drinking to "loosen up." I don't drink-- and I don't judge those who do, but it makes *them* feel awkward when I ask for soda instead, and there are social events where partner and I are not invited because there's drinking. It's not something people talk about-- the toll that alcohol use takes-- and how pervasive it is because it's acceptable, but it's something we should talk more about.

Anyway . . . I do see lung cancer/COPD patients too, but most of them are older.

I have only ever had a handful of drug-related deaths on our unit.

I have never had a patient yet die from marijuana. In fact many of my cancer patients find medical marijuana helpful. (Why it is illegal I have no idea, it seems the least harmful of all of them)

Most of my alcoholic liver patients are 30's to 50's, and from all walks of life, socio-economic, religious backgrounds. Way too young to be facing end of life, and totally preventable. :disbelief

On a given day on my 12-bed unit, I will have about 6 old people dying of natural causes (including Alzheimers, heart disease, etc), 2 COPD patients (smokers), 2-3 cancer patients, and 1-2 alcoholic liver patients.

Anyway, something to think about.

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My dad is wheel chair bound because of alcohol, it’s absolutely terrible. The thought of it happening to me scares me to death, I won’t drink hard liquor at all and I only drink maybe a couple beers a week if I feel like I want one. I don’t understand why weed is illegal still either, it helps my anxiety and depression almost disappear and that’s a wonderful thing to get rid of.


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i haven't had a cigarette since april and don't want to go back. i am 100% addicted to "smoking" something, whatever and e-cigs save me from smelling like an ashtray. i'm not gonna stop. from what i understand, it is the black market crap that is making people sick.