Re: is Bela het for spider? ;)
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Re: is Bela het for spider? ;)
Can I have a steak..... preferably one with some sort of het for tender marker?
Re: is Bela het for spider? ;)
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Originally Posted by Gecko Den
While that is true Randy, it still doesn't chnge the fact that the original question was is her snake Het for spider, or the answer that no it isn't... While it is a beautiful snake, it isn't a spider. You said yourself that no one has proven out a Super form of the spider mutation, so stating that a spider is in fact a Het, is pure speculation on your part and doesn't do much in the way of answering her question, wouldn't you agree? ;)
I thought Ginevive already knew that she didn't have a het spider.
[QUOTE=Ginevive]Thanks. I of course, do not really think she is het spider. ;)QUOTE]
I was just correcting your saying that there is no such thing as a het for spider. The visible spiders are heterozygous for the spider gene. Hopefully I’m not offending you with this correction. I was glad that Wendy corrected my misuse of the term “marker” and am still hoping to hear back if I’m not quite using “mutant gene” right.
I'm wondering if you aren't thinking that "het" means half way to something else by bring up the super spider. For those who want to avoid confusion remember that heterozygous just means having an unmatched pair of alleles for whatever gene you are talking about. In recessive the hets are normal looking but that doesn't mean that all hets have to be normal looking. In co-dominants the hets are half way to the homozygous super phenotype but that doesn't mean that all hets have to be half way to a super. If a completely dominant morph is eventually proven (maybe spider or even pinstripe) then the hets will look just like the homozygous mutants. You will have 33% chance possible homozygous from het X het breedings. By understanding that heterozygous means having an unmatched pair of genes you don't have to change the definition of "het" for every mutation type. The evidence that a spider is a het is that it tends to produce 50% spiders when bred to a normal. By having two different versions of the gene at the spider locus it is like flipping a coin with every offspring to see which version it will get.
I firmly believe that everyone is capable of understanding the meaning of “heterozygous” so I keep repeating it in the hopes of finding a better way of explaining it. I believe the understanding of genotypes is critical for avoiding confusion as we get into more and more complex crosses.
Re: is Bela het for spider? ;)
[QUOTE=RandyRemington]I thought Ginevive already knew that she didn't have a het spider.
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Originally Posted by Ginevive
Thanks. I of course, do not really think she is het spider. ;)QUOTE]
I was just correcting your saying that there is no such thing as a het for spider. The visible spiders are heterozygous for the spider gene. Hopefully I’m not offending you with this correction. I was glad that Wendy corrected my misuse of the term “marker” and am still hoping to hear back if I’m not quite using “mutant gene” right.
I'm wondering if you aren't thinking that "het" means half way to something else by bring up the super spider. For those who want to avoid confusion remember that heterozygous just means having an unmatched pair of alleles for whatever gene you are talking about. In recessive the hets are normal looking but that doesn't mean that all hets have to be normal looking. In co-dominants the hets are half way to the homozygous super phenotype but that doesn't mean that all hets have to be half way to a super. If a completely dominant morph is eventually proven (maybe spider or even pinstripe) then the hets will look just like the homozygous mutants. You will have 33% chance possible homozygous from het X het breedings. By understanding that heterozygous means having an unmatched pair of genes you don't have to change the definition of "het" for every mutation type. The evidence that a spider is a het is that it tends to produce 50% spiders when bred to a normal. By having two different versions of the gene at the spider locus it is like flipping a coin with every offspring to see which version it will get.
I firmly believe that everyone is capable of understanding the meaning of “heterozygous” so I keep repeating it in the hopes of finding a better way of explaining it. I believe the understanding of genotypes is critical for avoiding confusion as we get into more and more complex crosses.
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
I'll bring the mashed pa-taters!! ;)
-adam
OOOOOH!!! I'll bring the risin' rolls & sweet tea!!!!
K~
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Originally Posted by KLG
OOOOOH!!! I'll bring the risin' rolls & sweet tea!!!!
K~
Sweet tea?!?!?! Kara, you have fine taste in beverages, and here I thought you were a yankee!! You are welcome to my dinner table anytime!
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Errr okay I explained to the Americans what Timmies is...now what in heck is "sweet tea"....I'm assuming some sort of iced tea but sweeter????
Will it make Kara cry if I mention I can't make a biscuit to save my soul and use those tube whomp em biscuits deals? I did learn how to make sausage gravy though as even I realize sausage gravy in the can is probably a poor dietary choice (btw...I'm Canadian...gravy is supposed to be BROWN and served with the Sunday roast of beef....you Americans are just freakin wierd! LOL)
~~Jo~~
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Originally Posted by wendyhoo9
Sweet tea?!?!?! Kara, you have fine taste in beverages, and here I thought you were a yankee!! You are welcome to my dinner table anytime!
LOL Wendy!!! I'm from TX and my folks now live in Tennessee. I am not, nor will I EVER be, a Yankee. :bleh: Which by the way, Yanks don't understand the word "unsweet" - they always go adding a "ened" to it. Tea is either sweet or unsweet...get it right folks. ;)
K~