Pastel Clown Ball Python or not?

I'm the last person to ask about bp morphs lol. But, IMO it reminds me of a fire clown..? With some dark shading, there might be something else as well. But then again I see plain ol clown not a problem with that! Gorgeous snake nonetheless!

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Originally Posted by GpBp

I'm the last person to ask about bp morphs lol. But, IMO it reminds me of a fire clown..? With some dark shading, there might be something else as well. But then again I see plain ol clown not a problem with that! Gorgeous snake nonetheless!

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It's definitely not a fire clown. The fire would make it much brighter and at a young age also much more contrasting. Without knowing what the parents were it's impossible to ID with any certainty so I would go with clown with nice blushing.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

Pastel Clowns and Killer Clowns have what i like to refer to as muertes skull or sugar skull headstamps. also not Black Pastel Clown either - they have bald heads and the colors are off.

i think it's just a blushed Clown and there's nothing else at work (unless it's influenced by being het for another recessive gene).

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Thank you. I am pretty happy with a Clown without Pastel actually, I don’t like what Pastel does to Clown, especially as the animal ages. What I can’t accept is the seller’s ignorance, he still tells me that this is indeed a Pastel Clown, unbelieveable :)

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Originally Posted by rufretic

It's definitely not a fire clown. The fire would make it much brighter and at a young age also much more contrasting. Without knowing what the parents were it's impossible to ID with any certainty so I would go with clown with nice blushing.

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Thanks. I guess the seller made a mistake or was decieved by the breeder he got the animal from, the seller still insists that this is a Pastel Clown :) I am almost sure that it isn’t now.

I have a baby clown and a older pastel clown the first is a normal clown and the second and third are a pastel clown. I’d say a clown with possibly something else but not pastel https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...05971ff01e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...edc3a64f00.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6580f41e19.jpg


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Originally Posted by Ellis.brown01

I have a baby clown and a older pastel clown the first is a normal clown and the second and third are a pastel clown. I’d say a clown with possibly something else but not pastel https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...05971ff01e.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...edc3a64f00.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...6580f41e19.jpg


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Wow, your clown looks so clean and beautiful. Thank you for the pics, I guess mine is just a plain old Clown.

By the way, which Clown would you prefer, a clean or a blushed one?

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Originally Posted by amok

Wow, your clown looks so clean and beautiful. Thank you for the pics, I guess mine is just a plain old Clown.

By the way, which Clown would you prefer, a clean or a blushed one?

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I love all clowns and you cant beat a normal clown in my opinion.

So, case closed then? This is just a normal Clown? :)

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Originally Posted by Ellis.brown01

I love all clowns and you cant beat a normal clown in my opinion.

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I love them all too and a regular clown is beautiful but I wouldn’t say you can’t beat it, there are some amazing combos out there. I do like the look of a regular clown over pastel clown and a few other clown combos though. But once you start adding fire, leopard, spotnose, butter/lesser, desert ghost, etc, etc, lol, there are a lot that blow the regular clowns away, at least imho and it’s good everyone has their own opinion either way. ;)

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Originally Posted by amok

So, case closed then? This is just a normal Clown? :)

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Not really, you’ll just probably never know for sure lol. She is definitely not your average regular clown, but she isn’t different enough to be able to ID an additional morph either. This is why it’s important to know what the parents were, at least if you want to know what the combo is, otherwise it’s just a guess. Without knowing it’s best to just call her clown but if you decide to breed her, then you may be able to prove otherwise.

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Originally Posted by rufretic

I love them all too and a regular clown is beautiful but I wouldn’t say you can’t beat it, there are some amazing combos out there. I do like the look of a regular clown over pastel clown and a few other clown combos though. But once you start adding fire, leopard, spotnose, butter/lesser, desert ghost, etc, etc, lol, there are a lot that blow the regular clowns away, at least imho and it’s good everyone has their own opinion either way. ;)




Not really, you’ll just probably never know for sure lol. She is definitely not your average regular clown, but she isn’t different enough to be able to ID an additional morph either. This is why it’s important to know what the parents were, at least if you want to know what the combo is, otherwise it’s just a guess. Without knowing it’s best to just call her clown but if you decide to breed her, then you may be able to prove otherwise.

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I didn’t really mean you can’t beat it because like you say there are so many amazing clown combos out there. I should’ve said you can’t fault it. But I like the simplicity of it and it will always be one on my favourites.


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