Help. I have a rescue but unsure on the genetics.

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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril

Like others have said, in the first photo the washed out color looks lesser/butter but in the other two photos (which I assume are closer to actual colors) it does look caramel.

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Actually the first is closer to her colors. The less lighting and shadows in the 2nd and 3rd exaggerated the darker paterning. She's so light that at first i suspected she had ghost. I've been able to rule that out after a shed, and as I've said to others I've thoroughly examined her eyes and they have no signs of albinoism ruling out a caramel. The possibility of an ultramel still exists.

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Personally I would not breed that snake unless you know for sure what the genetics are. You may figure out it's recessive or co-dom by breeding but you wont really know if it's caramel, ultramel, a new type of morph, etc... you may mislead people that buy the babies. I'm guessing that's why big breeders can get a better price for their snakes, the genetics are guaranteed, they don't mess around with breeding snakes with unknown genetics and then guessing. Probably why it was passed on as a 'rescue'. I'd start with the person you got it from, ask them where they got it from and trace it back, see if you can track it down. If it came from a big chain pet store you may be able to find the breeder that sells to them and ask the breeder. That's a good looking snake though, and a great size for breeding!

This animal is a Lesser (or Butter, no difference other than the name). There is absolutely no doubt.

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Originally Posted by cchardwick

Personally I would not breed that snake unless you know for sure what the genetics are. You may figure out it's recessive or co-dom by breeding but you wont really know if it's caramel, ultramel, a new type of morph, etc... you may mislead people that buy the babies. I'm guessing that's why big breeders can get a better price for their snakes, the genetics are guaranteed, they don't mess around with breeding snakes with unknown genetics and then guessing. Probably why it was passed on as a 'rescue'. I'd start with the person you got it from, ask them where they got it from and trace it back, see if you can track it down. If it came from a big chain pet store you may be able to find the breeder that sells to them and ask the breeder. That's a good looking snake though, and a great size for breeding!

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Was a rescue because her original owner lost their house to the wildfires that rocked B.C this year. That's why i am unable to get a hold of him to trace the line.

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Originally Posted by Pezz

Actually the first is closer to her colors. The less lighting and shadows in the 2nd and 3rd exaggerated the darker paterning.

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Ahh okay then yes, lesser/butter

Quick update. Got hold of the original owner traced her back to the breeder Marcus Jayne. She's a lesser from the Ralph Davis line.

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I agree with caramel. Very beautiful!

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Originally Posted by Chinnamasta

I agree with caramel. Very beautiful!

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Tracked her back to the breeder. She's a lesser from the Ralph Davis line.

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