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  • 08-27-2017, 12:57 PM
    Sunnieskys
    https://youtu.be/FcK2glqh-Yg Brian's vlog about normals. At 3min 45 sec in.
    also the last clutch he cuts all are normal het albino
  • 08-27-2017, 03:19 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Gender Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    https://youtu.be/FcK2glqh-Yg Brian's vlog about normals. At 3min 45 sec in.
    also the last clutch he cuts all are normal het albino

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    Brian from BHB just posted a video that stated all BP can come out as normal since all started from normals. Even with the new morphs. Chances are lower but it will always be there.

    Quote:

    The odds of producing just a normal ball python in this clutch is just as incredible as the odds of producing a 5 gene animal out of it
    Quote:

    Oh my god, I completely whiffed on my odds on this clutch and produced nothing except het albinos or het candies
    I think you are severely misquoting him. Like I said, anything we call a super bred to anything will not produce normals.
  • 08-27-2017, 03:38 PM
    Sunnieskys
    Re: Gender Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    I think you are severely misquoting him. Like I said, anything we call a super bred to anything will not produce normals.

    You might be correct. I am by no means an expert with morphs. Lol

    Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
  • 08-27-2017, 08:14 PM
    hollowlaughter
    Re: Gender Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sunnieskys View Post
    You might be correct. I am by no means an expert with morphs. Lol

    Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk

    They are. Worth playing around with a breeding calculator for future learning, but OWAL's good people.

    IIRC breeding a super to a normal always essentially removes the super from the babies.


    • Suma x Normal = Mahoghany
    • Killer x Normal = Pastel


    Or else it "breaks up" the morph.


    • 8 Ball x Normal = 50% Cinnamon, 50% Black Pastel


    Unless one of them is a dominant like say, Tiger...


    • Tiger x Normal = 25% Tiger (Dom+CoDom), 25% Normal (Dom), 25% Desert (Dom), 25% Enchi (CoDom)


    It helps me, at least, to think of it like Legos.

    Normal is 8. Normal can't share with other blocks.

    Base block is 8. Desert 6. Enchi 2. Normal 8. If you slap the 8 block on top of the 8 block, there's no room. But if the 6 block goes on top of the 8 block, there's still room for that 2 block, which gives you a Tiger. No Normal + Enchi since Normal doesn't share.

    In the case of the Suma (Super Mahoghany) it's a double CoCom. With one parent throwing in normal onto each 8 block, there's no room for anything else. But the CoDom has to be passed, so you end up with a clutch of all 2/8 since the Normal doesn't share.

    Then in the case of say, GHI (another basic/Dom like Desert). Desert x Normal = 50/50. So does GHI. 50/50. But you can breed Super GHIs and Super Deserts but not Supers of some like Normal and Spider (tho for different reasons between the two).

    There's probably fallacies in seeing it like that, but it helps me process the info to a degree.
  • 08-27-2017, 08:23 PM
    Sunnieskys
    I love the Lego scenario. And I like OWAL too. I wasn't attacking I promise. When I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong, and I guess I'm totally wrong and mis understood. I'll go sit in my wrongness, being wrong. Lol. I have a lot to learn about morphs.
  • 08-27-2017, 08:31 PM
    hollowlaughter
    That was more for lurker's sake than directed specifically at you, no worries!

    Seen a lot of people that don't realize that OWAL is the same OWAL that runs the page with the well-known hereditary issues list and tends to take on some interesting projects like the long-term, multi-person Super Pinstripe project. Definitely a good user to be learning from here on BPnet when they're around. Lucky!
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