The eyes dont look good to me...shed?

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Originally Posted by qwerty53

@Deborah It was sold as scaleless head and no defect was mentioned. In fact i contacted the breeder and they said the scales missing around eyes and its little different thays why eyes are bigger and said to wait until shed over

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Every scaless head I have seen even some with more scales missing did not have eyes bulging that much.

Compare pictures and you will see that the eyes on the guy are bulging a lot.

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@Deborah So yoi think children will come out like this too? Also you dont think its scaleless head whs line at all?

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Originally Posted by qwerty53

@Deborah So yoi think children will come out like this too? Also you dont think its scaleless head whs line at all?

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Maybe maybe not, you can never tell until you breed it, but as someone who has invested a lot on single animal I only want to breed the best, I would never breed something that has a defect regardless of the value.

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Of course not if everyone agrees its a defect!

Thanks all!

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Originally Posted by qwerty53

Of course not if everyone agrees its a defect!

Thanks all!

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Scaleless is "new". There is not enough data to know what is normal and what is problematic. There is definitely something going on with the eyes. It could be an incubation issue, it could be a morph issue, it could be a combination of morph issues. If it is a true problem I would say is unknown right now. It could be said that scaleless is a defect period. We deal with the defects in spider. We work around defects in other morphs. There is a chance that the problem, if it is one, can be bred out. The carriers would have to be destroyed though.

so he shed one nice shed but the eye...still white ring
please see pic here
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw...pBb3hLSjdsTmI0

by the way there was a bit of blood near his shed on the paper towel

Something I've noticed about the scaleless heads is the microscales where normal scales should be. There is a little bald spot, surrounded by microscaling. Other ball pythons don't have that. It appears to be a scale less head, but I'm no expert. The bulging eyes are however a problem. :( I don't think I would breed it. I would probably personally cuddle that snake as a pet.