HELP > blood under scales

Do you perhaps have a community of reptile enthusiasts in your country ? People that share the same interests?

They may be able to help you too, with supplies they may have on hand (Thermometers, gauges, etc)

Hi OP,
I understand your situation, with no vet available. It's hard enough to find vets who take BPs here in the states. You know the black hide you have in there? I noticed that the entrance is slightly jagged. Could she have gotten injured crawling through it? More likely though IMO is internal bleeding, based on the blood under the eye cap. I think she likely fell from the top of that branch and was injured. If she is blind, you can brush her lips and neck with the mouse you are feeding her, assuming it's f/t and not live. This will hopefully help her take it.

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Originally Posted by zina10

If the blood seems to spread and she is also not eating, it may be more then a injury or lack of humidity.

How long have you had her ? Did she used to eat for you ? Has she had any problems before ? Where did you buy her from, from a "store" or from an individual that breeds ? If she is Wild Caught (I'm assuming) then there is a good chance she has some internal parasites. Hook worms are nasty and can cause quite the issues. How long has it been that you noticed this problem ? How fast does it seem to be spreading?

It is just so hard to tell from the internet alone.

Its been a long time since I've medically treated my rescues. I have used Baytril and Flagyl orally, and I have given shots of antibiotics (all with vet approval)
at home, but I do not remember the dosages. They also depend on the weight of the animal and shots have to be given in a certain area of the body, under the scale. (I believe its the front third part of the snake)

I really hesitate even giving that advice, since you can do a lot of damage just treating without Vet supervision, but if this problem gets worse and there is no vet, what can you do ?

Perhaps you could post in the "Advanced Husbandry" section and the more experienced snake keepers, the ones that work with imports and wild caughts can give you some help on where to start, dosage and what to do.

I really wish I could help more, but in this case its a 50/50 on saving her with "home" treatment, or making things worse. Not doing anything, is the same shot in the dark, though.

A really bad situation to be in, I feel bad for you and your snake :(

If she used to eat for you, if she was healthy before, then this may just be something that will correct itself as long as you provide good care. If she never did great and is getting worse, you might need to do more..

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she was eating normally and shedding perfect for like a year with me

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Originally Posted by FlynnTheBP

Hi OP,
I understand your situation, with no vet available. It's hard enough to find vets who take BPs here in the states. You know the black hide you have in there? I noticed that the entrance is slightly jagged. Could she have gotten injured crawling through it? More likely though IMO is internal bleeding, based on the blood under the eye cap. I think she likely fell from the top of that branch and was injured. If she is blind, you can brush her lips and neck with the mouse you are feeding her, assuming it's f/t and not live. This will hopefully help her take it.

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maybe u r right because this problems started when i got that stick

That is good that she used to be healthy, that usually rules out the problems that WC animals have.

From the little bit of reading I just did, I came across information from a Vet site that said that "ulcerative dermatiti" (scale rot) can start out looking like blood behind the scales.

I've only ever seen it when the scales already turned brown and "crispy" looking, but apparently it can start out that way.

Either way, in your case the best bet is to keep your husbandry as good as you can, get that humidity up there and keep the cage super CLEAN. Clean any mess up immediately. Perhaps remove the climbing branch for now, too.

If things get worse, you might have to do more, though..but watch it for now!

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Originally Posted by zina10

That is good that she used to be healthy, that usually rules out the problems that WC animals have.

From the little bit of reading I just did, I came across information from a Vet site that said that "ulcerative dermatiti" (scale rot) can start out looking like blood behind the scales.

I've only ever seen it when the scales already turned brown and "crispy" looking, but apparently it can start out that way.

Either way, in your case the best bet is to keep your husbandry as good as you can, get that humidity up there and keep the cage super CLEAN. Clean any mess up immediately. Perhaps remove the climbing branch for now, too.

If things get worse, you might have to do more, though..but watch it for now!

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ok i will do that

This really has me stumped. The eye cap is really odd... My Balls have fallen from 12" high several times and never even have a bruise let alone internal bleeding coming through the flesh and scales... Im wondering if it is acually scrapes?
That stick looks real smooth, pretty too, but that or the plastic container may be doing somthing, hard to beleive but i dont know what else to think. Can you take the stick out and cut a thicker not so paper cutty "rubbery plastic " bowl for a hide and test it for 2 weeks? You'll know within that time if the blood dries and whatever is happening stops. Maybe a Cardboard hide?

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Originally Posted by the eg python

ok i will do that

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With this dry environment do snakes get Scale Rot? Thank God ive never delt with it, but i thought it was from moist places that hatbor bacteria? Has anyone heard if it effecting the eye?
Do you clean up any mess he/she makes right away or are you gone a lot?

Looking at the picture you have, it seems more and more her pupil might be blow. It happens in humans with crush/trauma injuries such as car crashes, and if she fell head first it's very possible. It could be UD but honestly I've dealt with that before in my garters and I've never seen it present itself like this. Good luck and keep us updated.

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Originally Posted by Mr Sully

With this dry environment do snakes get Scale Rot? Thank God ive never delt with it, but i thought it was from moist places that hatbor bacteria? Has anyone heard if it effecting the eye?
Do you clean up any mess he/she makes right away or are you gone a lot?

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You're right, scale rot usually comes from moisture, which is why I suspect trauma and internal bleeding.