Am I NUTS or do you feel the same?

I'm coming in to this from the opposite direction. I had never considered owning a snake. I am currently going through a divorce and my daughter knows that I love having pets, but also that I won't have a pet if I can't take good care of one. I have several other things going on that make having a dog or cat impossible, at least by my standards.

She suggested a ball python. My daughter is incredibly intuitive and she is very knowledgeable about animals, so I looked into it. My Google search brought me to this site. I had a question and tried to do a search, but I had to be a member, so here I am!

The more I looked into it, the more I realized that a BP would be perfect for me. Then I decided that 2 would be better. I am thinking about breeding them once, knowing full well that there is a possibility that I would need to keep all of the offspring if I cannot find a good home for them.

That is all years down the road, as I need to get set up for the first 2 first. Between this site and Youtube, I have come up with a list of supplies and equipment that I need before I can bring a snake home. And I need to get the divorce finalized so I can get back on my feet and in to a place of my own.

So I went from never having a thought of owning a snake to possibly having 10 or more in the next 10 years.

There are people out there that solicit buyers that have no knowledge with 'get rich quick breeding reptiles' bs. There is a pair of guys, or maybe they were brothers, that do that with bearded dragons making claims how you'll make money and if not, 'we'll buy the breeding stock back!' something along those lines, been posted about multiple times on the BOI by people that feel they were scammed and yet new people still fall for it. There was a gecko guy using it as a sales tactic to sell his (imo overpriced) leos. Heard it a few times over the years and won't be surprised to hear it again. People will and do see these animals simply as a commodity. Not much different IMO than some of the people that wholesale/flip/catch WC in bulk, etc etc. There always seems to be a dirty underbelly in any business, the saddest part is when it deals with living creatures who are helpless and captive to our whims.
I'll stop ranting now.
:P

no, you're not nuts. these are nuts:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...fibre-noci.jpg

i roll my eyes when someone says or post, i've been doing alotta research and then ask the most basic husbandry or snake question. lol really? you couldn't find the most basic answers during your research? i'll help u out but slow down. also first time, first year keepers/breeders scare me. i wanna breed, but i'm taking my time and doing it in steps like this:

1. research BP/snake care
2. shop
3. keep
4. continue to learn and care
5. breed responsibly

Edit: even with some breeding size females, i'm taking my sweet time to reach step 5 and that's fine. :)

It always disturbs me too! You're not nuts, the jar of nuts in your kitchen is nuts. HAHA

"I'm planning on breeding and getting maybe 10~20 ball pythons and making it into a side-business, but I don't have a snake yet. ANY TIPS?????? WHERE DO I START"

:please: This is me praying for them and any animals that fall into their hands.

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Originally Posted by Bassball Fever

I'm coming in to this from the opposite direction. I had never considered owning a snake. I am currently going through a divorce and my daughter knows that I love having pets, but also that I won't have a pet if I can't take good care of one. I have several other things going on that make having a dog or cat impossible, at least by my standards.

She suggested a ball python. My daughter is incredibly intuitive and she is very knowledgeable about animals, so I looked into it. My Google search brought me to this site. I had a question and tried to do a search, but I had to be a member, so here I am!

The more I looked into it, the more I realized that a BP would be perfect for me. Then I decided that 2 would be better. I am thinking about breeding them once, knowing full well that there is a possibility that I would need to keep all of the offspring if I cannot find a good home for them.

That is all years down the road, as I need to get set up for the first 2 first. Between this site and Youtube, I have come up with a list of supplies and equipment that I need before I can bring a snake home. And I need to get the divorce finalized so I can get back on my feet and in to a place of my own.

So I went from never having a thought of owning a snake to possibly having 10 or more in the next 10 years.

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You used the site like were all suppose to.. You didnt put the cart berfore the horse, first buying snakes without knowing what to keep them in... I literally read posts where people buy a BP, go home, log in and ask what to do on here.. I sit with my mouth hung open in disbelief. Hahahhaha

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Originally Posted by Ax01

no, you're not nuts. these are nuts:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...fibre-noci.jpg

i roll my eyes when someone says or post, i've been doing alotta research and then ask the most basic husbandry or snake question. lol really? you couldn't find the most basic answers during your research? i'll help u out but slow down. also first time, first year keepers/breeders scare me. i wanna breed, but i'm taking my time and doing it in steps like this:

1. research BP/snake care
2. shop
3. keep
4. continue to learn and care
5. breed responsibly

Edit: even with some breeding size females, i'm taking my sweet time to reach step 5 and that's fine. :)

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Yeah, it floors me when people look like a nut job but act like everything is fine hahahaha

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Originally Posted by Mr Sully

I literally read posts where people buy a BP, go home, log in and ask what to do on here.. I sit with my mouth hung open in disbelief. Hahahhaha

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Gotta be blunt, some people are 100% just plain *unintelligent when it comes to caring for animals.

*stupid

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

It always disturbs me too! You're not nuts, the jar of nuts in your kitchen is nuts. HAHA

"I'm planning on breeding and getting maybe 10~20 ball pythons and making it into a side-business, but I don't have a snake yet. ANY TIPS?????? WHERE DO I START"

:please: This is me praying for them and any animals that fall into their hands.

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Totally unbelievable..... Sounds like they need Dr Phil to send them to a class that will help exercise using some common sense.

in college i saw a lot of this with my friends and dogs: kids on their own for the first time, finally move off campus, then BOOM dog. almost every dog i saw around my college was so poorly trained they were down-right scary. they would charge the front door, they were overly territorial, they had serious dominance issues, they weren't house-broken, and worst of all: they. did. not. listen. these kids were plain unfit to care for these rescue dogs. granted i have never in my life owned or really been around dogs, and don't know much, but i know that what i saw was unfit owners. it's like they couldn't take 24hrs to really think about what taking in an animal means, or just stop being selfish for a while to see that maybe it's not right for animal.

I'm actually a huge proponent of regulating reptile breeding. If it were to be regulated I feel it would help prevent the individuals interested solely in the money but I could be wrong. Anyone else feel this might be a step in the right direction for responsible reptile breeders? The logical part of my brain also thinks that if this somehow involved teaching selling to responsible keepers it might help prevent species specific regulations... though I know nothing about law so definitely don't quote me on that.