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Urgent problem. Regurge.

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  • 11-11-2016, 02:00 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
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    Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Low ambient temps so long the hot spot is within proper range is not likely the cause of the regurgitation.

    Now are you sure both were regurgitation, regurgitation usually occur pretty fast after a feed, not a week later, by the time a week has gone by the prey is digested.

    Regurgitation can be due to a few factors

    Stress, improper temps not allowing digestion (obviously we know the hot spot was allowing that), bad feeder (if you feed F/T), internal parasites, RI etc.

    Was this animal new in your collection?

    Now it is very important to wait at least 2 weeks before attempting to feed again and if at that time the animal regurgitates again, a trip to a vet will be mandatory.

    I've had this snake for several months. I feed live. Perhaps the stress of moving him to clean or he has developed an illness and this is his first symptom. Called the vet today and they told me I'll have to wait for him to expell something again for them to test otherwise they cant help. I'm going to give him at least a full 2 weeks before I do anything with him. I'm super worried.
  • 11-11-2016, 03:33 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cheosamad View Post
    I've had this snake for several months. I feed live. Perhaps the stress of moving him to clean or he has developed an illness and this is his first symptom. Called the vet today and they told me I'll have to wait for him to expell something again for them to test otherwise they cant help. I'm going to give him at least a full 2 weeks before I do anything with him. I'm super worried.

    That's not quite true. They can get samples but would have to send probes up his vent and down his throat to get them, which is expensive and stressful on the snake.

    If anything else is expelled - from either end - save it in a plastic baggie with a little distilled water to keep it from drying out. Your vet will want to test for parasites and cryptosporidium.

    I wouldn't feed him anything for at least a month, just keep his humidity up so he doesn't dehydrate.

    Bear in mind that since you had him close to your other snakes, if this one tests positive for parasites the others will likely have picked it up also, so they should all be tested and treated accordingly. Until you know what you're dealing with nothing should come into or leave your collection.
  • 11-11-2016, 04:42 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    That's not quite true. They can get samples but would have to send probes up his vent and down his throat to get them, which is expensive and stressful on the snake.

    If anything else is expelled - from either end - save it in a plastic baggie with a little distilled water to keep it from drying out. Your vet will want to test for parasites and cryptosporidium.

    I wouldn't feed him anything for at least a month, just keep his humidity up so he doesn't dehydrate.

    Bear in mind that since you had him close to your other snakes, if this one tests positive for parasites the others will likely have picked it up also, so they should all be tested and treated accordingly. Until you know what you're dealing with nothing should come into or leave your collection.

    Do you think he would be okay off of food for 6 weeks? I know they're hardy and can fast but I don't know how it works when they're not the one choosing not to eat. I move in about 4 weeks so I'm gonna need to give him 2 more weeks to settle at my new house before I can think of feeding him or anything.

    Really just wanna make sure I do what's best for the snake.
  • 11-11-2016, 05:14 PM
    Snizards
    6 weeks is fine, I've had snakes go off food for longer than that.
  • 11-11-2016, 05:32 PM
    KMG
    When you do feed again give a smaller prey item that is smaller than what you usually feed. It is common to go down to half the normal size.
  • 11-11-2016, 06:11 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
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    Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    When you do feed again give a smaller prey item that is smaller than what you usually feed. It is common to go down to half the normal size.

    Alright. What would you say is half sized from a small adult rat? Maybe just give him a mouse like he was eating before?


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  • 11-11-2016, 06:18 PM
    Eric Alan
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cheosamad View Post
    Alright. What would you say is half sized from a small adult rat? Maybe just give him a mouse like he was eating before?


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    A rat pup would be about right.
  • 11-11-2016, 06:28 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
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    Originally Posted by Eric Alan View Post
    A rat pup would be about right.

    Okay this is all good info. Thank you guys so much. And sorry if its spam but expect updates. Really hoping when I return home he is stable and doing better. It may sound like a sorta double edged sword but i really hope it was just because of prey size increase or stress because at least thats super easy to fix.


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  • 11-11-2016, 07:43 PM
    bcr229
    When you do feed next, offer a meal half the size of a normal one, and dust the damp f/t feeder with a bit of this powder to help re-establish the snake's gut flora:https://beanfarm.com/collections/health-care/products/nutribac-reptile-amph-probiotic?variant=24905368073




    Wait two weeks and if all is well offer another half-sized and dusted feeder. If that stays down then offer a normal meal every two weeks.
  • 11-11-2016, 07:59 PM
    cheosamad
    Re: Urgent problem. Regurge.
    Okay. Going to order that stuff right now so I have it on hand when its time to feed him again. I appreciate everyones help so much. I think we're gonna make it through this one haha.


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