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  • 11-09-2016, 12:36 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Only one collasping egg... help?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GoldSheep View Post
    I'll cut the egg tomorrow no matter what... :please: Please be OK.

    Well we are all advising you to not cut into the egg until day 55 or one of the other eggs pips. What you are planning to do is not acceptable intervention at the stage the eggs are at. The egg may look small but what you can't see is the depth the egg drops down into the clutch from the underside. Most of the people who have responded have been there and are experienced in this type of situation. In any case Good luck.
  • 11-09-2016, 12:48 PM
    GoldSheep
    That would be day 55...
  • 11-09-2016, 01:23 PM
    piedlover79
    Since they day 55 mark is just an estimate I would still wait for one of the others to pip first, it's a better marker of when it's time.
  • 11-09-2016, 02:21 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Only one collasping egg... help?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GoldSheep View Post
    That would be day 55...

    Oh! Ok. I would still reconsider cutting. Your temps and humidity have been on point correct? piedlover has a point as well. Again, good luck in whichever way you decide to go.
  • 11-09-2016, 02:26 PM
    Trisnake
    Are any of the other eggs dimpling in yet? Lots of people (from what ive seen and read) cut at day 55 and don't experience many problems, but it's risky in my opinion...
  • 11-09-2016, 04:21 PM
    Mangiapane85
    Re: Only one collasping egg... help?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GoldSheep View Post
    That would be day 55...

    Wait. Judging by your other posts, I was thinking tomorrow would be day 53.?... please just hold out on cutting it. Please.


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  • 11-11-2016, 12:03 AM
    GoldSheep
    My instinct was correct. The baby is dead inside. Looks like a pastel? Kinda hard to tell since it's underdeveloped.. But I think it pretty much suffocated a few days ago, when I was concerned for it and claimed that it ran out of room--there is no more yolk/white or any contents besides the baby.... No way to tell if it's male or female (Part of the skin is adhered to the egg and I'm not going to pull it out to find out. The other eggs, though are doing fine. The pattern on the baby makes it look like it was pastel that was the father. Sad for the little one. I separated it from the other eggs so they won't mold which will not change the position of said eggs. Rest of Eggs should hatch in 5-6 days.

    I cleaned my hands and the scissors before cutting... still feel disappointed.

    The other eggs are candling well though. They should hatch naturally. I've never had a baby have trouble with its egg tooth. I'm normally reticent to cut. I'll post pictures on request only... but I don't favor pictures of grim outcomes.
  • 11-11-2016, 12:11 AM
    GoldSheep
    BTW, I think what people can take away from this is that when an egg is collapsing too early and it's in a pile to try to separate it gently and then prop it up in the vermiculite, especially small eggs... And yes, that moldy of an egg when no room to candle is probably close to dead.
  • 11-11-2016, 09:43 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Only one collasping egg... help?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GoldSheep View Post
    BTW, I think what people can take away from this is that when an egg is collapsing too early and it's in a pile to try to separate it gently and then prop it up in the vermiculite, especially small eggs... And yes, that moldy of an egg when no room to candle is probably close to dead.

    . Well, one thing is for sure. You have my deepest sympathies. However in the scheme of things and the way they unfolded here I think you were between a rock and a hard place in that the egg was underdeveloped (age ) for the intervention that you were proposing. This intervention was very risky and no guarantee that it would've changed the outcome. We (breeders) have all lost eggs and hatchlings along the way, it happens and the viability and sucessful hatching of a egg or a clutch of eggs is something that we don't have the final say on. Hope this helps somewhat.
  • 11-11-2016, 10:42 AM
    piedlover79
    I'm very sorry to hear this. Removing an egg that is doing poorly is very risky to the healthy eggs though. If you're only a few days from hatch and a bad egg doesn't just come free without any pulling or cutting it is still best to just leave it be so as to not risk tearing a hole in a good egg. Good eggs are amazingly resistant to mold.

    All in all you did the best you could and I doubt cutting sooner would have done anything as an underdeveloped hatchling rarely has good lungs.
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