Aggressive thrashing when paired

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Originally Posted by Aercadia

Looking forward to hearing the ending of this saga!

To play the devil's advocate, what happens if it turns out that the snake was sexed correctly, and it is a M/F pairing? Do M/F snakes fight like M/M would for any reason?

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Hey Aer, me too! If it turns out that the reptile is female then i personally will be surprised but i will stand corrected. Its not the norm for m/f to have a battle like what Seven - Thirty described. It certainly sounds more like a m/m dominance competition. Stranger things have happened and i certainly can be wrong. Usually m/f can reject one another but it typically is that stimulation and breeding behavior just doesn't take place but rarely is there a battle. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Aercadia

Looking forward to hearing the ending of this saga!

To play the devil's advocate, what happens if it turns out that the snake was sexed correctly, and it is a M/F pairing? Do M/F snakes fight like M/M would for any reason?

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Sometimes they do I have a female that did exactly this during her first season, in 10 years she is the only one I have ever seen trashing around and fighting like males do during male fights. She is a female (proven multiple times) but at the time I questioned myself and immediately re-sexed her (she was 1800 grams at the time). She only did it with one male and was fine with the others. She is now 3500 grams and while she has not done this since it is always in the back of my mind and I play close attention during the first 5 minutes after introduction.

So I did a little testing because the vet isn't free until later on tonight and I put a known female calico spotnose in with the supposed female and the calico spot immediately started tail wagging and scenting but the supposed female isn't showing any interest what so ever but isn't thrashing either.

Note i've only had them together for about 40 minutes but it was a huge difference from what she (supposed female) was doing last night.

Stonger evidence that she might be male I suppose?

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Stonger evidence that she might be male I suppose?

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Sounds like it to me. I still can't pop adults properly and always second guess myself so I usually rely on probing besides buying from people I trust.

I was able to pop some of our younger boys, but struggle with the bigger boys and don't feel confident identifying the girls - my husband was never able to pop them successfully (but knows what he's looking at when there's a female)... we ended up getting a set of probes, and don't rely on popping. :) He usually does the probing, but recently taught me and had me give it a go, so I was able to verify the sex on my most recent acquisition (and had him re-verify). Tools are friends!

Welp, turns out she's a he. Kinda salty at that revelation but what are you going to do v.v

thanks for all the support guys, I really appreciate it.

Sorry to hear that.
I had it happen with a beautiful pastel.
Many people here told me I was cray for selling him after a couple clutches.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps9141b6be.jpg

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Welp, turns out she's a he. Kinda salty at that revelation but what are you going to do v.v

thanks for all the support guys, I really appreciate it.

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Really sucks when that happens but at least none of your snakes got hurt before you caught it

Yeah :c Now i just need to figure out what I can do with him xD this shakes up my plans a bit.

what do you guys do with your normal males?

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Originally Posted by Seven-Thirty

Yeah :c Now i just need to figure out what I can do with him xD this shakes up my plans a bit.

what do you guys do with your normal males?

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Usually I wholesale them (that requires quantity) or they are free to good home.