how has the price of morphs changed over the years?

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

adam, thats great info....just what i was looking for...

You would not happen to have the prices for all the years in between would you? I was looking to do some analysis...maybe develop a model for the cost data..(ha...i am bored and I think it would be pretty cool to put all of that info about some of the morph prices on a nice graph :) ).

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Not off the top of my head ... I'm sure if we sat down with a beer or two I could dust off the ole skull cap and remember some prices, but the ADD is in overdrive today and I'm drawing a major blank right now.

If anything comes to me I'll shoot you an email!

-adam

Adam, you don't think
$6,500 in 1998 to $1,000 in 2005

Isn't drastic?
So in another few years, they'll be as common as Albino Burms? :P

I'll just say as common as albino burms are, they still rock in my book. :)

It's funny to see the look on people's face when they realise that big yellow snake I'm holding is actually real and not made of rubber. lol

LMAO....skull cap.

if you remember anything feel free to send an email.

I have been keeping track of all kinds of info on my bps...I figure that one day I will have some nice data to share with everyone. ha...i keep looking at that female weight graph from the Ball Python Manual.... only 3 ball pythons were used for that.....I would love to see what 50-100 test subjects would look like.

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Originally Posted by Leon

Adam, you don't think
$6,500 in 1998 to $1,000 in 2005

Isn't drastic?
So in another few years, they'll be as common as Albino Burms? :P

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Perhaps, but I think Balls will always be more in demand than a Burm for obvious reasons. Besides, if you are thinking about breeding but are only looking at Pastels, then I could see how you might be discouraged by the numbers. However if you look at the multitude of morphs available and new ones that haven't even been discovered (created) yet, you will see the potential. Now if a Pastel Pinstripe was in the $200 range I might get a little worried. :P

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Originally Posted by Leon

Adam, you don't think
$6,500 in 1998 to $1,000 in 2005

Isn't drastic?

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With all of the pastels that are on the market, for prices to still be that strong after 7 years and pastels being a co-dominant morph, you're darn tootin that I don't think it's drastic.

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Originally Posted by Leon

So in another few years, they'll be as common as Albino Burms? :P

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There are far more people that will be willing to purchase a beautiful yellow and black snake that gets 4 ft and eats small rats than a 12ft behemoth that you have to feed rabbits. They will hopefully be as common, but certainly not as cheap. The demand for ball pythons is strong!! Once the $1,000 market is exhausted, pastels will settle in around the $500 price range and then the buying frenzy will begin!! All good stuff for people producing pastels!

-adam

Pastels sell between $1000 to $2000 right now.

Super Pastels sell between $10000 to $15000 right now.

If you have pastels...you can always start making supers...It is great to have that option.

If the price of pastels drops to $500....What will the super pastel price drop to...maybe $5000-$7000.

I think that dominant morphs with a homozygous form offer much more opportunities than others.

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Besides, if you are thinking about breeding but are only looking at Pastels, then I could see how you might be discouraged by the numbers.

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I think only working with pastels is still good money ... Selling 20 pastels a year at $500 each is outstanding money for very little work and overhead. Plus, you can keep making that money for 20 years potentially. Even with the prices going down each year, there is still no better return on an investment ... not stock, bonds, real estate, not anything ... well, not anything legal at least. :D:D:D

-adam

great topic! i bought a pastel last year for a 1k and i know that by this fall or next, prices will be lower but i don't think that i can't make my grand back.
even if they go to 500-600 i'll still make profit, hopefully on the first breeding year. one thing to think about is that as prices drop the customer base multiplies. from an investment point of view i don't think a bank or stock market will give you that much back in 2-3 yrs! if you'll no of one that will please let me know! lol. the different combos of ball morphs will help alot to keep prices good for a while, it is going to take years to saturate the market with all the ball morphs. how many years do you think it will take to see bumblebee or snow in petsmart? just my thoughts!


vaughn

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Originally Posted by kavmon

how many years do you think it will take to see bumblebee or snow in petsmart?

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vaughn....you are funny.:)