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What morph is mine?

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  • 10-13-2015, 06:32 PM
    BCS
    Im going to say mojave... not enough experience with mojave to say so but it would explain the brightness of the dorsal pattern.
  • 10-13-2015, 08:55 PM
    SamuelWitwicky
    Re: What morph is mine?
    Tbh, I thought my snake looked exactly like the snake in the "help US help YOU" thread under the stickies haha


    Cheers,
    Sam
  • 10-13-2015, 09:29 PM
    SamuelWitwicky
    Re: What morph is mine?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aercadia View Post
    Nice pics! I'm no good to help figure out the genes, but I love her pattern! Pretty girl. :)

    Hey Aercadia, if I correctly understand this post by JLC,
    (http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=144613) a hypo morph's shed skin is translucent without any patterns. My BP's shed skin is the same. Can this be one of the confirming factors? I'm attaching one more picture with natural light. Hope it helps

    http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...31ec37a4bb.jpg


    Cheers,
    Sam
  • 10-14-2015, 02:16 AM
    Aercadia
    WOW, her true colors are something else in natural light!! With this picture, I'd be leaning more towards Axanthic (lacking red/yellow pigment) - she is lovely! Her black and browns are still too dark for me to positively identify it as a Hypo, but you're reading that thread correctly - although we look at a Hypo snake and can clearly say "yep, that snake has some faded black and other colors on it", the shed skin is completely devoid of pigment.

    I think I recall reading a post a few weeks/months back (wat r time) about someone's snake giving colorless shed, although the animal didn't present visually as a Hypo... I don't think I'll be able to find it, but maybe someone else recalls and can chime in! I don't have enough personal experience to confirm whether this is a guaranteed way to determine the gene (Homo or Het), or whether it's an anomaly.

    As for the pattern, I am going to agree with BCS - under this light, I'm leaning towards Mojave, or a Mojave mix. :) She really is lovely!
  • 10-14-2015, 06:18 AM
    SamuelWitwicky
    Re: What morph is mine?
    @Aercadia thanks for your kind words :) she's really lovely. Thank you for patiently explaining to me whatever you know too! Yeah I figured a picture in natural light would be good. Hopefully experts can shed some light!


    Cheers,
    Sam
  • 10-14-2015, 06:54 AM
    PitOnTheProwl
    What made you decide to pick two recessives that do not match your snake?

    Here is a list for you to look over to try and match a photo to: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/
  • 10-14-2015, 11:33 AM
    SamuelWitwicky
    Re: What morph is mine?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    What made you decide to pick two recessives that do not match your snake?

    Here is a list for you to look over to try and match a photo to: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/

    If you're talking to me, I said earlier that I THINK it looks similar + I THOUGHT it was hypo because the post I mentioned, said that there a hypo snake has to have a translucent shed skin.


    Cheers,
    Sam
  • 10-14-2015, 02:11 PM
    FranklinMorphs
    Not sure what it is to be honest, but not axanthic, has too much yellow along the spine and has browned out along the sides much more than I would expect from the size. Belly has no distinguishing marks/coloration that I can tell. Main head pigmentation is normal. I would otherwise just guess a slightly funky normal.
  • 10-14-2015, 02:15 PM
    SamuelWitwicky
    Re: What morph is mine?
    Thanks for your input Wolfe!


    Cheers,
    Sam
  • 10-14-2015, 03:59 PM
    Aercadia
    Yeah, I'm definitely not sure about what's making the sheds come out colorless - she's obviously got some nice dark color to her... if you decide to breed her later on down the road, I don't think you'd be remiss in trying to prove her out with a Ghost boy, just to see if there is a Het gene in there. :) I can't think of any other explanation. Next time she sheds, post a pic in the forum and we'll see if anyone else weighs in!

    I poked around on WOBP and didn't really see anything that matched her look 100%, but every animal is just a little bit different. I'm sticking with the Mojave+ theory. The alien patterns, the brighter dorsal spots, and the bright eye stripes that almost meet at the nose are all markers for Mojave. What the + is, I'm not sure... but I can't help thinking there's something else in the mix. Mojaves usually get lighter on down the sides towards the belly, but your girl doesn't so much. Maybe genetic Granite? Wolfe's right, there's too much yellow for Axanthic, so I'm just not sure. But at the very least, she's beautiful, and it sounds like she's got a nice temperament. :) So there's that!
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