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Whole clutch died.

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  • 06-23-2015, 12:13 PM
    hungba
    Re: Whole clutch died.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    What is your incubator temp? You said it's constant but what is it? Also, are you using just one or two thermometers to check it, maybe one is off? Too low of a temp can cause dead but outwardly perfect full-term babies.

    Otherwise it may have just been that particular pairing that was the problem. I run my eggs the same as you, sealed plastic container w/ the Glad Press n Seal to maintain humidity at 99% or higher, and open the lids to permit air exchange briefly once a day for the last few weeks.

    The temp in the incubator is 89 constant. Inside egg tubs for whatever reason is 87 - 88. Yes thermometers are often off. But I have 5 in there, not counting the two thermostat probes which aldo display the temps.
  • 06-23-2015, 12:15 PM
    hungba
    Re: Whole clutch died.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Too low of a temp can cause dead but outwardly perfect full-term babies.

    Can you please elaborate on this? How can they have died but be full term? They pipped themselves, I didn't cut the eggs or anything.
  • 06-23-2015, 12:42 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    If you eliminated incubation issues, and you eliminated pairing issue (same pair producing viable offspring in the past), than it's just one of those things that happens.

    I had hatchlings crawl out of the egg and die, some take 2 or 3 meals and die, 1 die while constricting, it's just one of those things.

    You can always have a necropsy and it could reveal some issue like aneurysm or other defect but it would not change anything and would not be something you could prevent (unless this pairing consistently produce weaker animals)

    They are not all meant to be whether it's eggs or hatchlings.
  • 06-23-2015, 12:48 PM
    bcr229
    Re: Whole clutch died.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hungba View Post
    Can you please elaborate on this? How can they have died but be full term? They pipped themselves, I didn't cut the eggs or anything.

    Read it elsewhere. Since you incubated at 89*F and they pipped it's a non-issue anyway.

    Sometimes clutches or pairings are just weak. Luck of the draw and it happens. Hopefully your other clutches will be better.
  • 06-24-2015, 02:44 AM
    hockeygirl28
    Re: Whole clutch died.
    We had some problems with green eggs as well, ended up killing 5 eggs in our clutch. Luckily we still got 2 out. It's been hypothesized that the green is caused by an increase in B2 levels, which results in a hardened yolk that the snake is unable to fully absorb.

    Not sure if this is what happened in your case, but this seemed to be true with our clutch.

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  • 06-24-2015, 05:16 AM
    hungba
    What causes increased b2 levels?
  • 06-24-2015, 04:24 PM
    hockeygirl28
    Re: Whole clutch died.
    No idea
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