Diamond x Jungle using tail as lure?

Gio,

All I heard was "you want me to explain that? lol"

You keep pounding how I keep two snakes together for disease spreading issues, but I already explained, these have been together at the same petstore, likely from the same breeder. If they have disease it is likely both, and it is for me to find out and treat. I have worked at a wholesale facility and worked under import conditions, managing disease is nothing for myself but understandable to someone new, and repeating myself either way they are already together at the petstore.

With that aside I just wanted to know why you thought juveniles should not be housed together. You acted like many reasons, so was just curious. lol does not explain that to me, or help those new to the hobby understand why.

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Funny that you mention breeders then doubt practiced, proven, and accepted methods of care for carpet pythons written by experienced breeders and herpetologists that have studied these animals.

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It is actually breeders and the US that I found this information and now in my previous post someone in the UK. Now I feel like I am the one talking to the wall. You hear what you want to hear.

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Brooding snakes (insert species) VS. carpet pythons? Very different, and carpets are not noted for brooding or paring up in mass prior to breeding.

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I am glad you understand there are brooding species, that is much different than "snakes are solitary". Since you understand "biological" influences, then you understand evolution is not black/white but grey. So differentiating two types of snakes makes little since. Can you at least see based on many discussions and observations of Carpets, that they are a bit closer to communal than say a snake that eats other snakes?

I am sorry, but I think you will keep talking in circles because you have not observed Carpets yourself, only basing this on a general understanding of snakes?

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Originally Posted by carpet

Anyone else witness this before? I am not new to Reptiles, but new to Morelia and witnessed my Diamond Jungle wagging her tail while perched on a branch. It was as if to attract something, very cat (or leopard gecko) like consistent wag for a couple minutes. Ate two rat pinkies after.

Back story, I just got her today as a young female and placed her with a young Male Coastal Jag. He was still hiding away, and she took up a position on the branch (actually a dowel). Would have got a video but my phone sucks and had low lighting for the introduction.

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Keep going.

The experience level you show here doesn't seem to be on par with one who should question or disagree with PROVEN methods! You seem to think I made this up on my own. Not the case here, not by a long shot.


Again if you can't figure out the reasons on your own, then you haven't researched enough.

Try reading THE COMPLETE CARPET PYTHON Written by Nick Mutton and Justin Julander.

It is probably the most comprehensive piece of media about carpet pythons available today. BTW the authors recommend a minimum of 2 months of quarantine before introducing animals into the same housing area (not enclosure) as other snakes. You had one snake and then you brought in another at a different time from a situation where multiple snakes were being housed together. That is not quarantine, and it certainly doesn't do anything to help the NEW snakes adjust to their new situation. Do you see anything between the lines here that I might be hinting at other than disease?

It is rather presumptuous of you to think I have not have not worked with carpet pythons. I house my coastal, female in her own enclosure where she has her OWN hides, water bowl, and choice of basking areas. No competition, no stress, no worries. I am able to monitor everything that goes on with her, or any of my other constrictors.

You can deflect/redirect and disagree with everything I have to say if you'd like. Keep in mind you'll be hard pressed to find others here or on any other forum that find your methods to be wise and a good practice. If you were posting the above in the Ball Python forum you'd have a whole host of folks telling you to separate those animals and a lot more.

I'm done here and have said all I'm going to say and won't respond further on this topic.

Congrats on the tail luring observation.

Enjoy your new snakes.

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Originally Posted by Gio

You seem to think I made this up on my own. Not the case here, not by a long shot.

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Likewise, I shared my conversations and those who think otherwise, with proof by real science, actually doing it. I am sure following the book to the T will get good results as well, if not taking parts of it out of context.

This thread from Australian forum has over 20 people verifying keeping of diamond pythons together...
https://aussiepythons.com/forum/show...thons-together
... just so you know we are not making things up, keeping them together as a common practice.

You can keep harping on the quarantine, but even after I shared they where together before I picked up the first one, you still insist the need because you have no other argument here, after all that is what this is, you can't be wrong or have a direct conversation. Sorry that you had to make up that there are so many reasons to sound authoritative, then divert with pointing to a book discussing part of our conversation out of context and still referencing quarantine needs; the only argument you have.

I still think it is a knee jerk reaction, and now you just don't want to be wrong on any of the conversation. I agree, it might make more sense for quarantine to separate (never placing together prior), but I don't feel it is justifiable in this circumstance.

Anyways, good luck to you as well, in being a forum mod.