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and even those who breed and sell out of thier homes or small breeding facilities probably would not make someone take a test, they are out for the $
Interesting statement made there as most small breeders that I know of keep their reptiles for the love of herps and nothing to do with money except for the little bit of extra income to help feed and house their collections properly
If you think small time breeders make alot of money think again.. they cant possibly compete with large scale breeders I produce very little on a yearly basis and my monthy expendature for my collection far out weighs monthly income a couple of clutches of eggs a year will not pay the electric bill or feed bill, much less line your pockets
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lets not forget that, they are not going to want to hang onto a snake till the "right and satisfactory owner
I dont know of a single large scale breeder that screens customers...
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I can only hope that this ban does not get passed. Granted, I do not own any of the reptiles that are proposed to be balled (gators, large constrictors, etc.) But how long would it be before something as harmless as a ball python could be banend also?
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I just looked up a few things on the NYS website. There's a page that you can type in a word, and all of the recent bills that have that word in them will come up.
http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi
I do not see anything about the proposed ban though, because these are only bills which have passed. I am pretty fascinated that in NY, day-cares are not allowed to have reptiles or amphibians in them!
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I've already posted the link here for someone on the act ...
It doesn't ban all reptiles ...
Mostly large ones like Burmese Pythons.
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Oh man...I can tell you all about being an underground herper. I have my whole bedroom closet designed to hold my herps and to be able to conceal everything in a heartbeat. The only people that know I am into snakes is all of you guys and gals ( be careful...don't spoil my secret..hahahaha ) and a few close personal friends that sorta think I am a little nuts but tolerate my hobby. Other than that I don't advertise to anybody about me and my herps. I have no doubt that my manager would probably flip her cork is she knew I have an apartment full of snakes...heh heh heh
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welph kids, the ban apparently got passed by our gracious governor pataki. My friend lives in a little town called Machias a county over from me. The town gave her a list of what you can and cannot own without obtaining a $100-a year permit. The list includes some pretty outrageous things like polar bears, monkeys, and other primates, in addition to all venomous snakes, and boas or pythons over ten feet in length.
The purpose of this crap is that there's concern about fire; I guess that the fear is that firefighters would be injured or killed by dangerous animals if the house they're kept in were to go up in flames. So the idea is that anyone owning "exotics" on the list gets his/her house examimned by a state employee, pays $100, and then might or might not get approved to keep said exotics.
So, say there's a fire in my house. Are the firefighters going to measure my boa, among the flames, to see if it is ten feet or less?
This is all so ridiculous. It's a catchall list of animals that includes such harmless things as fish and nonvenomous small snakes. I am just relieved that it does not include any of the species I keep, but if they got their foot in the door, how long until ball pythons are banned too?
I definately know a senator I am NOT voting for next election.
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Fish...since when would you need a permit for fish!!
Sharks, large stingrays...are one thing, smaller fish are another.
Does this mean I'd have to get a permit for clownfish..eesh.
I don't think I want to live in NY.
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Originally Posted by Ginevive
The purpose of this p00 is that there's concern about fire; I guess that the fear is that firefighters would be injured or killed by dangerous animals if the house they're kept in were to go up in flames. So the idea is that anyone owning "exotics" on the list gets his/her house examimned by a state employee, pays $100, and then might or might not get approved to keep said exotics.
ok so what if you have a watch dog, or any other dog that might become frightened and bite a stranger? or what if you keep a gun and/or ammunition in your house? or what if there is an elderly person living in the house and they have an oxygen tank? the whole issue with the firefighters getting injured by a snake is absolutely ridiculous. there are a great number of other things much more dangerous to a firefighter than a snake. i can't even believe that that is the reasoning behind the ban.
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