Odd clutch?

This is without a doubt the head-scratching craziest clutch to me!

baby #1, looks like a pretty standard nice normal. See them everywhere.

Babies 2-4, I'd call vanilla almost, but they don't have the prominent faded head of a vanilla. But to have 3 that all look so much alike? I find it hard to just call them "light normals".

And #5 I'd call a fire, if it had some blushing or flames and a bit more of a head fade.

About the best I can say for sure about them right now is, I'm jealous you hatched so many nice babies. That and... I'm glad I'm not the one trying to figure them out!! :)

I really suspect there is some kind of recessive gene at play here. Axanthic is first to come to mind, considering how much like an axanthic that one baby looked in the egg. My guess is, mom is het. And those creamy babies are as well. Problem is you said they were all girls. So you can't even breed one back to mom to see what is going on. I think at this point, I'd start looking for a 100% het axanthic male, since those are most affordable, and put him to mom and later on the creamy girls.

I know there are no absolute markers to look for to identify a het of any kind that are right 100% of the time. But the bigger guys will tell you, there are clues to look for, especially when looking at a group of normals for possible hets. And I swear, if I were looking at your clutch for possible hets, I'd be all over those creamy babies in a heartbeat.

In fact, they look a LOT like the creamy light normal female I make my vanillas with. What do you think? This is my only decent photo of her right now, but can you see how creamy she is?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...kes/Kaiya1.jpg

People thin she is a morph all the time. She's been called a Hypo, a Vanilla and something else, I forget what.

Gale

Quote. " really suspect there is some kind of recessive gene at play here. Axanthic is first to come to mind, considering how much like an axanthic that one baby looked in the egg. My guess is, mom is het. And those creamy babies are as well. Problem is you said they were all girls. So you can't even breed one back to mom to see what is going on. I think at this point, I'd start looking for a 100% het axanthic male, since those are most affordable, and put him to mom and later on the creamy girls.

I know there are no absolute markers to look for to identify a het of any kind that are right 100% of the time. But the bigger guys will tell you, there are clues to look for, especially when looking at a group of normals for possible hets. And I swear, if I were looking at your clutch for possible hets, I'd be all over those creamy babies in a heartbeat. "



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I agree you should probably get an axanthic or her axanthic male to breed to her. Problem though, is not all axanthic lines are compatible...... Could take awhile.

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Originally Posted by angllady2

This is without a doubt the head-scratching craziest clutch to me!

baby #1, looks like a pretty standard nice normal. See them everywhere.

Babies 2-4, I'd call vanilla almost, but they don't have the prominent faded head of a vanilla. But to have 3 that all look so much alike? I find it hard to just call them "light normals".

And #5 I'd call a fire, if it had some blushing or flames and a bit more of a head fade.

About the best I can say for sure about them right now is, I'm jealous you hatched so many nice babies. That and... I'm glad I'm not the one trying to figure them out!! :)

I really suspect there is some kind of recessive gene at play here. Axanthic is first to come to mind, considering how much like an axanthic that one baby looked in the egg. My guess is, mom is het. And those creamy babies are as well. Problem is you said they were all girls. So you can't even breed one back to mom to see what is going on. I think at this point, I'd start looking for a 100% het axanthic male, since those are most affordable, and put him to mom and later on the creamy girls.

I know there are no absolute markers to look for to identify a het of any kind that are right 100% of the time. But the bigger guys will tell you, there are clues to look for, especially when looking at a group of normals for possible hets. And I swear, if I were looking at your clutch for possible hets, I'd be all over those creamy babies in a heartbeat.

In fact, they look a LOT like the creamy light normal female I make my vanillas with. What do you think? This is my only decent photo of her right now, but can you see how creamy she is?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...kes/Kaiya1.jpg

People thin she is a morph all the time. She's been called a Hypo, a Vanilla and something else, I forget what.

Gale

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I agree that 3 "light normals" in one clutch kinda makes me think they aren't just normals.

It's funny you mentioned that #5 would look like a fire if there was blushing and flames...I didn't catch it in the pics but there are a few flames that look a lot like yellow belly flames to me just not as many. This one thrown into the mix only makes it harder to figure out what's going on.

Yup, all girls. I couldn't believe it either so I popped them like 3 times now lol. I do however have their older brother. Although he doesn't have the creamy color, he does have the head stamp and reduced pattern, so maybe he can show me what's going on. He is showing plugs now but I'm fattening up Mom right now.

They do look creamy like your girl. She's a normal? I can't see the rest of her in that pic but I would probably think she's a morph too lol. Their mother isn't as light but I know I've mentioned to you before that she is lighter.