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  • 03-06-2014, 12:03 AM
    MonkeyShuttle
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Every bodies situation will be slightly different so i dont see a right answer to this question but for my situation; i said hey hun i want a snake and she said NO! So i went and bought a snake :P


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  • 03-06-2014, 12:09 AM
    Kodieh
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Unless one has made the mistake of moving in together with both names on a lease/mortgage.

    I was gonna not get into dissecting her relationship, but she and others divulged it.

    Yeah, that's a predicament. I never would get a place with someone I wasn't super tied to. But that's me.

    I don't like the comments, however, of people saying it wouldn't be a good idea for her to get a large species without experience. You're just as backwards as employers who require experience for entry level jobs, you can't gain experience without experiencing anything. We all start somewhere.

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  • 03-06-2014, 12:24 AM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    You're just as backwards as employers who require experience for entry level jobs, you can't gain experience without experiencing anything. We all start somewhere.

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    Don't be so dramatic.

    You said the magic words: entry-level. I don't think retics, burms or alligators are entry-level pets. No one is telling OP to have experience to own a corn or a BP.



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  • 03-06-2014, 12:54 AM
    CptJack
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    I was gonna not get into dissecting her relationship, but she and others divulged it.

    Yeah, that's a predicament. I never would get a place with someone I wasn't super tied to. But that's me.

    I don't like the comments, however, of people saying it wouldn't be a good idea for her to get a large species without experience. You're just as backwards as employers who require experience for entry level jobs, you can't gain experience without experiencing anything. We all start somewhere.

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    This is just silly. A retic is not an entry level pet (or herp). It's also a living creature.

    There are ways to get that experience that do not involve actually owning the animal - the hard to place, may become illegal, difficult to transport (ILLEGAL to transport across state lines in the case of burms), had to find a place for if it doesn't work animal.
  • 03-06-2014, 12:55 AM
    Kodieh
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    Don't be so dramatic.

    You said the magic words: entry-level. I don't think retics, burms or alligators are entry-level pets. No one is telling OP to have experience to own a corn or a BP.



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    Don't act all high and mighty when it's all a matter of opinion. Not sure about other places, but here in Oklahoma alligators are illegal to own because they are native (to a small tiny little bit of south eastern corner) wildlife.

    However big snakes start small and with proper research and preparation there is no problem.

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  • 03-06-2014, 12:58 AM
    Kodieh
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CptJack View Post
    This is just silly. A retic is not an entry level pet (or herp). It's also a living creature.

    There are ways to get that experience that do not involve actually owning the animal - the hard to place, may become illegal, difficult to transport (ILLEGAL to transport across state lines in the case of burms), had to find a place for if it doesn't work animal.

    Yes and no. I know of a few people I personally could ask, but what do I really need to know? Getting them out the cage? Housing requirements? An animal worked with through out its life will not be as difficult as a cage restricted snake used for breeding.

    As much as I'd like to think someone would have the sense to decide by 6± feet that an animal is not the right fit, I know that's not true. That's a valid concern. But you also don't specifically know the OP and their tendency. They sound pretty passionate to me.

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  • 03-06-2014, 01:03 AM
    Mr. Misha
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    Don't act all high and mighty when it's all a matter of opinion. Not sure about other places, but here in Oklahoma alligators are illegal to own because they are native (to a small tiny little bit of south eastern corner) wildlife.

    However big snakes start small and with proper research and preparation there is no problem.

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    There's nothing to act high and mighty about. There's just a big difference between taking care of a 20 foot snake and a 6 foot snake.

    We all know there's a big difference between reading about something and actually doing it.

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  • 03-06-2014, 01:03 AM
    CptJack
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    Yes and no. I know of a few people I personally could ask, but what do I really need to know? Getting them out the cage? Housing requirements? An animal worked with through out its life will not be as difficult as a cage restricted snake used for breeding.

    As much as I'd like to think someone would have the sense to decide by 6± feet that an animal is not the right fit, I know that's not true. That's a valid concern. But you also don't specifically know the OP and their tendency. They sound pretty passionate to me.

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    Physical capacity TO handle the animal is a good start. Actual desire to deal with a Burm sized poop, how to handle an alligator (which is a WHOLE different thing than any kind of snake), are pretty good starts on that front. So is seeing just how much space you're going to need, and a solid idea of the actual animal you want to own as opposed to the IDEA of the animal.

    I mean come on, we even tell people if tehy think they want a dog breed they should meet and interact with some examples to get a good idea what they're like in reality and what life with them is like. You can be passionate all you want, and if she's got some hands on experience fantastic, but there is a point when committing to the care of another creature, particularly a really difficult to pass along one that you need to get face to face and up close and personal with the reality.

    Because reality and dreams? They don't always mesh. Finding that out BEFORE you have the snake and no reasonable way to move it to someone else? That's just good freaking sense.
  • 03-06-2014, 01:07 AM
    Kodieh
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    I understand both of your points, and perhaps I was too loose with the entry level position analogy. I didn't mean to belittle the responsibility of giant constrictors.

    Just that we don't know her experience(s) and to jump on someone for having aspirations is a bit of a no no.

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  • 03-06-2014, 01:08 AM
    CptJack
    Re: I want to buy every python I see- everywhere.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kodieh View Post
    I understand both of your points, and perhaps I was too loose with the entry level position analogy. I didn't mean to belittle the responsibility of giant constrictors.

    Just that we don't know her experience(s) and to jump on someone for having aspirations is a bit of a no no.

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    But that's the thing - if she HAS some experience level, then she ... already has it? So she doesn't need to get it. If she doesn't have it, going out and getting some more's pretty okay and just another step in that direction.
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